1 00:00:34,290 --> 00:00:17,350 [Music] 2 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:37,000 you are listening to paranormal now on 3 00:00:41,229 --> 00:00:39,170 the inception radio network I'm Alan D 4 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:41,239 Smith and join us as we traverse the 5 00:00:45,490 --> 00:00:43,250 cosmic highway of paranormal pit stops 6 00:00:47,860 --> 00:00:45,500 and tantalizing turn-offs if you're a 7 00:00:49,390 --> 00:00:47,870 regular listener to irn we have an IR n 8 00:00:51,820 --> 00:00:49,400 smartphone app where you can listen live 9 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:51,830 to the live stream from home on the road 10 00:00:57,729 --> 00:00:54,290 or from a greasy diner somewhere off a 11 00:01:00,130 --> 00:00:57,739 dusty road the map app also allows you 12 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:00,140 to chat with other listeners provides 13 00:01:04,270 --> 00:01:01,850 show lineups and other information and 14 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:04,280 tools if you're just finding us please 15 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:08,000 like the paranormal now Facebook page 16 00:01:13,780 --> 00:01:10,430 which is at paranormal now radio or on 17 00:01:16,090 --> 00:01:13,790 instagram at paranormal now and a brief 18 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:16,100 reminder if you can also listen if you 19 00:01:21,310 --> 00:01:19,850 listen to our n ends 24/7 a lot the 24/7 20 00:01:23,980 --> 00:01:21,320 stream there are different ways for you 21 00:01:27,310 --> 00:01:23,990 to listen so you can tune in via live 22 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:27,320 365 stitcher radio Nomex radio tune in 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:30,500 iTunes radio streamis outcast winamp 24 00:01:35,740 --> 00:01:33,410 when media Brady equip time and irn roku 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:35,750 channel as well and if you don't have 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:37,250 access to a computer or smartphone and 27 00:01:40,270 --> 00:01:38,450 you're panicking and you need your 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:40,280 paranormal fix you can call from your 29 00:01:45,969 --> 00:01:42,170 landline or cell phone to listen in for 30 00:01:48,460 --> 00:01:45,979 free at four oh one two eight three six 31 00:01:50,109 --> 00:01:48,470 seven zero zero now this is a podcast 32 00:01:51,789 --> 00:01:50,119 for those of you who are just tuning in 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:51,799 this is not a live show so if you try to 34 00:01:56,859 --> 00:01:53,530 call in I'm sorry but we are not here 35 00:02:00,670 --> 00:01:56,869 and although we are a broadcast on a 36 00:02:04,210 --> 00:02:00,680 regular scheduled basis you know I want 37 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:04,220 you to know that there are weeks where 38 00:02:09,969 --> 00:02:07,369 we are not there you may have be a 39 00:02:12,039 --> 00:02:09,979 holiday weekend it may be something 40 00:02:14,229 --> 00:02:12,049 going in on my life personally and we 41 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:14,239 might have to fill it in with a repeat 42 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:15,769 episode so for those of you who have 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:17,930 some concerns about that those are some 44 00:02:23,340 --> 00:02:21,410 explanations for the skipped weekends on 45 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:23,350 occasion I'm very excited about 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:25,660 tonight's guest 47 00:02:31,060 --> 00:02:29,810 you probably know her if not I'm sure 48 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:31,070 that you've heard of her 49 00:02:37,540 --> 00:02:35,840 her name is dr. Rita Lewis she is the 50 00:02:41,770 --> 00:02:37,550 best-selling author 51 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:41,780 in the host of Just Energy radio and the 52 00:02:47,050 --> 00:02:43,570 founder of the Institute of Applied 53 00:02:49,930 --> 00:02:47,060 energetics she's the author of the books 54 00:02:52,170 --> 00:02:49,940 of the et Chronicles what myth and 55 00:02:55,630 --> 00:02:52,180 legend has to say about human origin 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:55,640 avoiding the cosmic two times for Dark 57 00:03:01,060 --> 00:02:58,090 Angels and inside his guide to ghosts 58 00:03:03,790 --> 00:03:01,070 spirits and attached entities and the 59 00:03:04,870 --> 00:03:03,800 power within as well as hundreds of 60 00:03:07,150 --> 00:03:04,880 articles that have been published 61 00:03:09,250 --> 00:03:07,160 worldwide she is the producer of a 62 00:03:11,530 --> 00:03:09,260 number of videos whose titles include 63 00:03:13,570 --> 00:03:11,540 holy deception icon destructing the 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:13,580 archetypes of the Ancients the truth 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:16,130 about the Nephilim and deceit lies and 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:19,250 deception the reptilian agenda dr. Rita 67 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:21,290 has appeared on radio and television and 68 00:03:26,050 --> 00:03:23,390 has spoken at conferences covering 69 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:26,060 topics such as health and healing ghosts 70 00:03:31,540 --> 00:03:29,150 intuition ancient mysteries and the 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:31,550 paranormal which is what we do here all 72 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:32,090 the time 73 00:03:38,410 --> 00:03:36,560 Rita welcome to the show thanks for 74 00:03:40,540 --> 00:03:38,420 having me out I'm looking forward to 75 00:03:44,890 --> 00:03:40,550 hanging out with you and the rest of the 76 00:03:48,730 --> 00:03:44,900 ire and family yes I've been here or on 77 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:48,740 iron so yay yeah and so how long ago did 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:51,110 you start on iron with your with your 79 00:04:00,730 --> 00:03:57,290 own show I I don't remember but I was 80 00:04:04,290 --> 00:04:00,740 with them for quite a while so you know 81 00:04:07,090 --> 00:04:04,300 and then I decided to start doing video 82 00:04:08,830 --> 00:04:07,100 interviews and so I decided I needed to 83 00:04:12,940 --> 00:04:08,840 go ahead and move on and that's been 84 00:04:15,599 --> 00:04:12,950 about two years okay and how the two 85 00:04:18,099 --> 00:04:15,609 years gone off air do you miss it 86 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:18,109 well I mean I'm still doing interviews 87 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:19,850 I'm still talking with people you know 88 00:04:25,810 --> 00:04:22,490 except it's video and so you know you 89 00:04:28,060 --> 00:04:25,820 have to have good hair and makeup yeah 90 00:04:28,620 --> 00:04:28,070 you have you no idea what I look like 91 00:04:31,540 --> 00:04:28,630 right now 92 00:04:34,180 --> 00:04:31,550 you know while the person's talking and 93 00:04:37,740 --> 00:04:34,190 you know drink water do all kinds of 94 00:04:41,620 --> 00:04:37,750 weird stuff well yeah just on air 95 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:41,630 because it kind of gives you away right 96 00:04:48,010 --> 00:04:43,340 you can't clear the wax out of your ear 97 00:04:50,050 --> 00:04:48,020 another life video all right yeah so 98 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:50,060 okay so we're doing an actual interview 99 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:51,110 and 100 00:04:55,660 --> 00:04:53,090 you can do any of those things that we 101 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:55,670 just covered if you want because no one 102 00:05:03,280 --> 00:04:58,610 will know and to start off by when I 103 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:03,290 wanted to ask you you know with all the 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:06,580 broad ranges of topics that you cover 105 00:05:14,890 --> 00:05:10,610 how did you get caught up with the 106 00:05:17,020 --> 00:05:14,900 research into aliens ancient alien 107 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:17,030 history because it seems to me you had a 108 00:05:28,150 --> 00:05:24,800 very homeopathic path great question so 109 00:05:30,130 --> 00:05:28,160 in my early life I had two loves my 110 00:05:33,850 --> 00:05:30,140 first was the study of archeology and 111 00:05:37,690 --> 00:05:33,860 anthropology where I pretty much read my 112 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:37,700 way through the books at the library to 113 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:40,910 the chagrin of the nuns at the Catholic 114 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:43,010 school I went to and I was a huge 115 00:05:48,430 --> 00:05:45,980 proponent of the theory of evolution my 116 00:05:54,810 --> 00:05:48,440 second love that came on the heels of it 117 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:54,820 was the study of psychic phenomena ESP 118 00:06:01,060 --> 00:05:58,400 human potential human development which 119 00:06:02,860 --> 00:06:01,070 I have been actively involved in I mean 120 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:02,870 you know what I do is I work as a 121 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:05,630 medical intuitive professional psychic 122 00:06:11,290 --> 00:06:08,800 working the clients around the world and 123 00:06:14,050 --> 00:06:11,300 you know and so studied that for a very 124 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:14,060 long time work you know worked and still 125 00:06:24,970 --> 00:06:18,130 work professionally doing that and and 126 00:06:27,580 --> 00:06:24,980 then when it was the twenty twelve thing 127 00:06:32,170 --> 00:06:27,590 that had come up and this was probably 128 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:32,180 about 2009 and I was watching the show 129 00:06:38,140 --> 00:06:34,610 about 2012 you know the world was going 130 00:06:41,470 --> 00:06:38,150 to end December 21st 21 oh and they were 131 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:41,480 talking about the Mayan Prophecy and 132 00:06:45,580 --> 00:06:43,310 then they said made these comments about 133 00:06:49,030 --> 00:06:45,590 while they talk about the same concept 134 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:49,040 in Hindu cosmology and Egyptian and they 135 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:50,570 were kind of rattled off some other 136 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:53,980 things well it just got my little 137 00:06:59,590 --> 00:06:57,170 archeology mind going because even when 138 00:07:01,810 --> 00:06:59,600 I was studying things like the turo I 139 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:01,820 found I couldn't even memorize them but 140 00:07:05,020 --> 00:07:03,770 I got really interested in studying the 141 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:05,030 esoteric and 142 00:07:10,090 --> 00:07:07,370 philosophical on the ancient history and 143 00:07:13,210 --> 00:07:10,100 when did this come into being you know 144 00:07:16,330 --> 00:07:13,220 and and this whole historical aspect to 145 00:07:19,570 --> 00:07:16,340 it so the history part never really left 146 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:19,580 but in that studying well I realized 147 00:07:26,590 --> 00:07:21,290 that what they were talking about on TV 148 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:26,600 was kind of hooey but but it caused me 149 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:29,810 to start looking at some articles that 150 00:07:35,580 --> 00:07:31,280 were talking about 151 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:35,590 mythology which set me off on this whole 152 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:40,400 giant tangent and down a huge rabbit 153 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:44,000 hood and so when I sit there and and 154 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:46,610 actually if you listen to me talk I very 155 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:50,090 rarely use the word alien now I might 156 00:07:56,050 --> 00:07:52,970 say and lump myself into the ancient 157 00:07:58,660 --> 00:07:56,060 alien category to put myself somewhere 158 00:08:01,180 --> 00:07:58,670 but I rarely used the word alien because 159 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:01,190 I talk about the gods because that's how 160 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:03,170 they talk about them in mythology and 161 00:08:12,010 --> 00:08:06,710 that's why you use them and my approach 162 00:08:14,650 --> 00:08:12,020 to them is from the belief system of the 163 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:14,660 people who told these stories they were 164 00:08:19,930 --> 00:08:17,690 the gods or the sky people or the sky 165 00:08:22,450 --> 00:08:19,940 heroes or those that came from the 166 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:22,460 heavens you know which we in the 167 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:24,290 Americas or the Western world called 168 00:08:30,430 --> 00:08:28,490 gods and so my focus really isn't on 169 00:08:33,340 --> 00:08:30,440 contemporary you have follow gee 170 00:08:34,780 --> 00:08:33,350 although I have a book that I started 171 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:34,790 but I'm finishing up this other book 172 00:08:42,220 --> 00:08:39,050 right now that is going to look at the 173 00:08:45,820 --> 00:08:42,230 mythological record for stories that you 174 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:45,830 find that parallel contemporary UFO 175 00:08:50,890 --> 00:08:48,290 sightings in contemporary abduction 176 00:08:55,930 --> 00:08:50,900 scenarios so there there's going to be a 177 00:08:58,630 --> 00:08:55,940 little bit but I in my vocabulary but 178 00:09:00,640 --> 00:08:58,640 when I started because I really started 179 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:00,650 doing research for the et Chronicles 180 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:04,130 book and went in with a very open mind I 181 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:06,290 mean are we talking about are these just 182 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:09,890 the stories you know what what what is 183 00:09:15,940 --> 00:09:13,450 it you know and I let the stories tell 184 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:15,950 tell their story 185 00:09:21,730 --> 00:09:18,860 and by the time I got doing my research 186 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:21,740 and I sat down to actually write the 187 00:09:29,170 --> 00:09:25,670 book there was no way to write the book 188 00:09:32,379 --> 00:09:29,180 without throwing the ancient alien idea 189 00:09:35,620 --> 00:09:32,389 on the table up front and center which I 190 00:09:38,019 --> 00:09:35,630 do once just deal with it right off the 191 00:09:41,259 --> 00:09:38,029 bat because there was no way to write it 192 00:09:43,870 --> 00:09:41,269 without looking at it from that 193 00:09:46,509 --> 00:09:43,880 perspective or putting that on the table 194 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:46,519 and the other things that I recognized 195 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:49,310 early on in writing was that I wasn't 196 00:09:54,310 --> 00:09:51,889 writing this book for the entire world I 197 00:09:56,319 --> 00:09:54,320 was writing this book for people in the 198 00:10:00,009 --> 00:09:56,329 Western world because if you go to India 199 00:10:01,780 --> 00:10:00,019 they believe that these deities live in 200 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:01,790 the sky and they interact with humanity 201 00:10:06,850 --> 00:10:04,370 Native Americans same thing you go to 202 00:10:11,259 --> 00:10:06,860 cultures around the world and their 203 00:10:13,870 --> 00:10:11,269 viewpoint of quote-unquote God is not 204 00:10:16,629 --> 00:10:13,880 ours well I guess it's like yeah if 205 00:10:18,970 --> 00:10:16,639 you're a and maybe a researcher from 206 00:10:23,199 --> 00:10:18,980 another country in another culture and 207 00:10:24,930 --> 00:10:23,209 you you looked at the Judean Bible then 208 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:24,940 you would see that in the same light 209 00:10:30,189 --> 00:10:27,260 right you would say oh those people 210 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:30,199 believe that stuff is 100% real as it is 211 00:10:36,130 --> 00:10:32,000 but as a researcher this is how I'm 212 00:10:37,780 --> 00:10:36,140 reading it well I mean we sit there and 213 00:10:39,699 --> 00:10:37,790 look at the mythological record that 214 00:10:42,130 --> 00:10:39,709 these people were just you know making 215 00:10:44,139 --> 00:10:42,140 stuff up and writing it down and telling 216 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:44,149 you know ghost stories about these 217 00:10:50,319 --> 00:10:46,220 magnificent creatures and characters 218 00:10:52,269 --> 00:10:50,329 that pervade myth and it you know your 219 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:52,279 comment makes me go well I wonder how 220 00:10:59,470 --> 00:10:56,690 people that are Hindu or our Buddhists 221 00:11:02,620 --> 00:10:59,480 look at our notion of Christianity 222 00:11:05,769 --> 00:11:02,630 because it's the same thing we have an 223 00:11:08,139 --> 00:11:05,779 invisible God you know and that and this 224 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:08,149 whole notion of Jesus and you know which 225 00:11:13,389 --> 00:11:09,410 I'm not even going to get into that 226 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:13,399 powder keg you know it's kind of like 227 00:11:19,420 --> 00:11:16,850 well why should they think that our God 228 00:11:20,110 --> 00:11:19,430 is real I mean we have this belief that 229 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:20,120 our Agard 230 00:11:25,809 --> 00:11:23,510 God is real but their gods are made up 231 00:11:30,259 --> 00:11:25,819 mm-hmm 232 00:11:33,019 --> 00:11:30,269 what's with that well and I don't mean 233 00:11:35,629 --> 00:11:33,029 to detract from the topic because we you 234 00:11:38,119 --> 00:11:35,639 know we talked about spending some time 235 00:11:39,650 --> 00:11:38,129 on the mythology in the gods and 236 00:11:42,799 --> 00:11:39,660 extraterrestrials quote 237 00:11:44,689 --> 00:11:42,809 extraterrestrials but I you did you had 238 00:11:47,359 --> 00:11:44,699 that post on Facebook recently that 239 00:11:50,239 --> 00:11:47,369 really did get myself and a lot of other 240 00:11:55,489 --> 00:11:50,249 people thinking you know and posing this 241 00:11:57,769 --> 00:11:55,499 question of you know who who was this 242 00:12:00,679 --> 00:11:57,779 God in the first place 243 00:12:03,949 --> 00:12:00,689 and was this God a culmination of 244 00:12:07,249 --> 00:12:03,959 different gods you know because you know 245 00:12:10,819 --> 00:12:07,259 you have a God who we all say if you're 246 00:12:14,809 --> 00:12:10,829 from the Christian you know raised or 247 00:12:16,819 --> 00:12:14,819 Judean raised or Muslim raised you say 248 00:12:20,660 --> 00:12:16,829 well god is this god of a passion of 249 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:20,670 compassion and and love and and then yet 250 00:12:26,629 --> 00:12:23,220 he does he hadn't had done all these 251 00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:26,639 destructive and very vicious things you 252 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:28,110 know tempting someone to kill their own 253 00:12:33,139 --> 00:12:31,920 son then you know he just wiping people 254 00:12:35,619 --> 00:12:33,149 off of the faith of the earth the 255 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:35,629 firstborn things like that it's um very 256 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:39,120 very scary if you didn't know that that 257 00:12:42,889 --> 00:12:40,970 was God and I was just telling you a 258 00:12:44,629 --> 00:12:42,899 mythological story from another culture 259 00:12:49,429 --> 00:12:44,639 you would say oh gosh what a ruthless 260 00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:49,439 God mm-hmm so it's is really people do I 261 00:12:53,989 --> 00:12:51,540 mean obviously people reconcile that in 262 00:12:56,299 --> 00:12:53,999 some way or another you know but myself 263 00:12:58,669 --> 00:12:56,309 you know haven't been raised Catholic 264 00:13:01,069 --> 00:12:58,679 and no longer Catholic that was one of 265 00:13:03,139 --> 00:13:01,079 the main concerns I had reading 266 00:13:06,019 --> 00:13:03,149 scripture as I was growing up it just 267 00:13:09,139 --> 00:13:06,029 didn't jive with me the way the church 268 00:13:10,910 --> 00:13:09,149 would wanted it to well and it's 269 00:13:14,230 --> 00:13:10,920 interesting because one of the things 270 00:13:17,179 --> 00:13:14,240 that you find when you start surveying 271 00:13:20,329 --> 00:13:17,189 the religions or the philosophical 272 00:13:23,059 --> 00:13:20,339 traditions of cultures from around the 273 00:13:27,739 --> 00:13:23,069 world when you look at indigenous 274 00:13:30,740 --> 00:13:27,749 cultures or when you alright I need to 275 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:34,470 culture or traditions that come from a 276 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:37,060 neighbor a McVeigh so from Abraham so 277 00:13:45,389 --> 00:13:41,370 Judaism Christianity and Islam all are 278 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:45,399 offshoots of Abraham and Isaac and that 279 00:13:50,730 --> 00:13:47,920 whole thing as the base character and 280 00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:50,740 Abraham was monotheistic he believed in 281 00:13:58,309 --> 00:13:54,160 one God but when you step outside of 282 00:14:01,740 --> 00:13:58,319 that tradition of Abrahamic traditions 283 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:01,750 every culture believes in multiple gods 284 00:14:07,620 --> 00:14:05,649 but what's interesting is that the 285 00:14:10,170 --> 00:14:07,630 majority or at least what I have found 286 00:14:13,790 --> 00:14:10,180 the majority of the cultures believe in 287 00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:13,800 a what I'm going to term a supreme god 288 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:18,310 the god who is the originator of the the 289 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,290 universe in the world and the things 290 00:14:25,379 --> 00:14:22,480 that we see in it and then there are 291 00:14:29,309 --> 00:14:25,389 these other gods that maybe could be 292 00:14:31,740 --> 00:14:29,319 more like into heroes or these people 293 00:14:36,350 --> 00:14:31,750 that they interacted with you know and 294 00:14:39,749 --> 00:14:36,360 we call them gods and in their cosmology 295 00:14:42,780 --> 00:14:39,759 they were powerful and they had 296 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:42,790 abilities that were beyond their level 297 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:45,310 of understanding but they weren't this 298 00:14:53,970 --> 00:14:50,470 omnipotent creator that we associate 299 00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:53,980 with God of the Bible with that said 300 00:14:58,499 --> 00:14:56,439 I'll just keep going with that said you 301 00:15:01,379 --> 00:14:58,509 know one of the things that I had posted 302 00:15:08,690 --> 00:15:01,389 on that one thread you were mentioning 303 00:15:15,630 --> 00:15:13,170 how I want phrases in these other 304 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:15,640 cultures they have a pantheon of gods 305 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:18,970 and so when the Bible this is my opinion 306 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:21,010 but when the Bible was written they 307 00:15:25,170 --> 00:15:22,870 couldn't have this pantheon of gods 308 00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:25,180 anymore they had you know because now 309 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:28,950 there's only one God but how do you tell 310 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:31,570 actually I'm even gonna back up when you 311 00:15:36,750 --> 00:15:33,690 look at mythology from around the world 312 00:15:39,690 --> 00:15:36,760 what you find is a very consistent story 313 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:39,700 told what by one culture to the next and 314 00:15:46,410 --> 00:15:42,610 you could literally pick bullet points 315 00:15:48,570 --> 00:15:46,420 throughout the storyline and find those 316 00:15:51,390 --> 00:15:48,580 bullet points in cultures around the 317 00:15:54,660 --> 00:15:51,400 world the concept of a Golden Age that 318 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:54,670 Noah the flood we ascribed to Noah the 319 00:16:00,270 --> 00:15:57,100 formation of the Sun Moon and stars I 320 00:16:02,820 --> 00:16:00,280 mean and they all appear in a certain 321 00:16:06,930 --> 00:16:02,830 order some cultures have more details 322 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:06,940 the same one might omit a story and so 323 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:09,730 you can kind of fill this grid in with 324 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:12,810 different culture cultural narratives 325 00:16:18,330 --> 00:16:15,730 including the stories you find in the 326 00:16:19,950 --> 00:16:18,340 Bible including now you would think that 327 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:19,960 the Bible would have totally different 328 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:21,610 stories because we're talking about a 329 00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:25,440 different God or not but what I 330 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:28,630 discovered was you can't talk about the 331 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:31,330 war between Zeus and Chronos and the 332 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:34,210 Titans and you can't talk about Enlil 333 00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:37,840 raping you know this other God I mean 334 00:16:42,930 --> 00:16:40,300 you can't tell these stories if there's 335 00:16:45,870 --> 00:16:42,940 only one God because God can't fight 336 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:45,880 against himself God can't have relations 337 00:16:52,950 --> 00:16:49,240 with himself you know it he can have 338 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:52,960 children well I guess he did but but you 339 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:54,790 see what I'm saying it's like so all of 340 00:17:01,680 --> 00:16:58,690 those stories that make up the bulk of 341 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:01,690 the ancient myths you know the creation 342 00:17:08,340 --> 00:17:05,770 narratives got deleted they just flat 343 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:08,350 got deleted and what you find are 344 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:12,310 aspects of these stories all combined 345 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:14,890 into one person so god ends up seeing 346 00:17:20,110 --> 00:17:17,350 seeming kind of schizophrenic because 347 00:17:22,870 --> 00:17:20,120 you have this kind and net 348 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:22,880 thank God which is usually associated 349 00:17:28,269 --> 00:17:26,390 with Enlil or the fertility gods the 350 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:28,279 ones that are represented by half-man 351 00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:33,110 half-snake and anvil who is the sky God 352 00:17:40,450 --> 00:17:36,110 who'd very authoritarian and judgmental 353 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:40,460 which many people assume is the God on 354 00:17:46,450 --> 00:17:43,730 high you know and so those two 355 00:17:50,860 --> 00:17:46,460 personalities kind of got compressed 356 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:50,870 into one person so they didn't have to 357 00:17:54,399 --> 00:17:53,809 get rid of the stories if that made 358 00:18:01,000 --> 00:17:54,409 sense 359 00:18:06,399 --> 00:18:01,010 you're having cultures that are trying 360 00:18:09,090 --> 00:18:06,409 to come together to to be a stronger you 361 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:09,100 know bigger culture as it were 362 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:11,090 especially if you're in a time of 363 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:14,570 warring tribes then you would have to 364 00:18:19,210 --> 00:18:16,760 sort of reconcile each other's religions 365 00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:19,220 and bring them into the fold into one 366 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:19,700 another 367 00:18:26,139 --> 00:18:22,730 I I remember also hearing that one of 368 00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:26,149 the earliest incarnations of the the 369 00:18:33,039 --> 00:18:31,070 Torah that there was male God and a 370 00:18:35,019 --> 00:18:33,049 female God so before they had whittled 371 00:18:42,279 --> 00:18:35,029 it down to one God there were there were 372 00:18:44,620 --> 00:18:42,289 two main deities and actually I've never 373 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:44,630 heard that so that's kind of interesting 374 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:48,320 and but it's very consistent with what 375 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:50,720 you find in a lot of the mythic record 376 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:54,230 is that there are these dual deities you 377 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:56,510 know sometimes they're referred to as 378 00:19:04,899 --> 00:18:58,880 being hermaphroditic you know where 379 00:19:06,970 --> 00:19:04,909 there's Lucy and Hwa who are there 380 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:06,980 they're serpents no but it's two heads 381 00:19:15,610 --> 00:19:11,330 on once intertwining serpent body and so 382 00:19:18,149 --> 00:19:15,620 you find this dual headed hermaphroditic 383 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:18,159 like because it's melt and female 384 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:22,850 godhood in Sumerian culture you actually 385 00:19:30,669 --> 00:19:25,370 find it quite a bit in South America as 386 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:30,679 well and so I think it's really 387 00:19:33,410 --> 00:19:32,330 interesting that it was in a very early 388 00:19:36,260 --> 00:19:33,420 version of 389 00:19:39,230 --> 00:19:36,270 Tora again I haven't seen that but what 390 00:19:41,450 --> 00:19:39,240 is the reference I would quote from it 391 00:19:43,490 --> 00:19:41,460 yeah I mean I should bite my lip on that 392 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:43,500 I don't know if there was actual Torah 393 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:46,530 written but I do know that it was a 394 00:19:53,630 --> 00:19:49,760 goddess her name was something sharra 395 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:53,640 and she was considered the God the 396 00:20:03,760 --> 00:19:59,520 mother and this was interesting because 397 00:20:06,020 --> 00:20:03,770 I had also recently watched your icon 398 00:20:09,740 --> 00:20:06,030 documentary and you spent a lot of time 399 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:09,750 discussing the goddess early goddess 400 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:14,250 figures figurines if it will and it's it 401 00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:18,290 seems to me that that mother goddess 402 00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:22,200 depiction had been dwindled over history 403 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:26,070 like there was a time where this goddess 404 00:20:30,380 --> 00:20:28,890 whether it was you know a really a 405 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:30,390 female goddess from another planet 406 00:20:37,610 --> 00:20:33,390 coming down here or what 407 00:20:42,130 --> 00:20:37,620 little by little we we stopped we're in 408 00:20:45,020 --> 00:20:42,140 a very been a reading these goddess 409 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:45,030 goddess isn't and I wonder what do you 410 00:20:50,780 --> 00:20:48,810 think why do you think you know that has 411 00:20:53,330 --> 00:20:50,790 dwindled over over the past you know I 412 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:53,340 don't know ten thousand years or so yeah 413 00:20:57,650 --> 00:20:55,650 and that would be pretty much the date I 414 00:21:01,940 --> 00:20:57,660 would put on it ten to twelve thousand 415 00:21:04,670 --> 00:21:01,950 years okay so this is my cop-out so it 416 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:04,680 is on my list I am working on a timeline 417 00:21:11,420 --> 00:21:08,730 of intervention alien intervention and 418 00:21:14,020 --> 00:21:11,430 one of the things that's on my list that 419 00:21:19,450 --> 00:21:14,030 I haven't really researched fully yet is 420 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:19,460 if I can find events or a reason why 421 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:23,490 culture shifted from a matriarchy rule 422 00:21:29,390 --> 00:21:28,230 to a patriarchal rule and I haven't I 423 00:21:32,780 --> 00:21:29,400 don't know yet 424 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:32,790 but I am sure I will find something so 425 00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:34,110 what is wait what's this what's the 426 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:37,440 timeline that you're speaking of so in 427 00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:39,330 the book that I'm working on now it 428 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:45,990 delves into the formation of culture I 429 00:21:49,330 --> 00:21:46,890 guess would be the 430 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:49,340 best way of saying it and it talks about 431 00:21:54,890 --> 00:21:52,710 why are why do we do the things that we 432 00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:54,900 do and it looks at ancient and 433 00:22:00,290 --> 00:21:57,900 indigenous cultures and the things that 434 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:00,300 we do which includes ceremony and ritual 435 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:05,130 and body modifications and worshipping 436 00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:11,310 in certain ways and and so what I talk 437 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:15,030 about because I put out in this book 438 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:18,330 that you know the gods were the ones 439 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:19,770 because you look at the mythic record 440 00:22:27,950 --> 00:22:22,170 and the gods are the ones who teach 441 00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:27,960 humanity everything basically and try to 442 00:22:33,470 --> 00:22:30,660 put a timeline to that with our 443 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:33,480 education and so what I'm working on 444 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:36,240 right now is okay in my book 445 00:22:42,050 --> 00:22:39,090 ET chronicles I work at dating the flood 446 00:22:44,150 --> 00:22:42,060 and so we have three different dates 447 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:44,160 there are four different dates you know 448 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:48,180 there's the 2400 BC date there's the 449 00:22:56,450 --> 00:22:51,240 6000 BC date which you know really try 450 00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,460 to the Bible record there's the current 451 00:23:02,960 --> 00:22:58,880 one that is floating around which is the 452 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:02,970 11,500 BC date but if you look at 453 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:06,090 ancient sources one of the things that 454 00:23:12,740 --> 00:23:09,090 they talk about and they put the date at 455 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:12,750 somewhere between 30 and 40 thousand 456 00:23:18,970 --> 00:23:15,810 years ago with 34,000 being about the 457 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:18,980 average date of when this flood occurred 458 00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:23,490 and so starting at that date I looked 459 00:23:29,810 --> 00:23:25,980 for because if there was a flood you 460 00:23:31,940 --> 00:23:29,820 know if we had this major event when do 461 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:31,950 you see things turn around or where do 462 00:23:39,290 --> 00:23:34,650 you see these blips in history like when 463 00:23:42,170 --> 00:23:39,300 it you know 5000 BC we see the historic 464 00:23:45,260 --> 00:23:42,180 rise of civilization so that is a blip 465 00:23:49,460 --> 00:23:45,270 you know it went from you know early 466 00:23:51,530 --> 00:23:49,470 farmers into this thing and so that's 467 00:23:53,630 --> 00:23:51,540 what I looked for and what I found was 468 00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:53,640 40,000 years ago we had the creative 469 00:23:58,730 --> 00:23:56,000 explosion we had the cave paintings and 470 00:24:01,450 --> 00:23:58,740 in forint we 471 00:24:03,380 --> 00:24:01,460 have the beginning of weaving of 472 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:03,390 textiles even though they don't have 473 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:06,510 textile evidence they had evidence that 474 00:24:13,220 --> 00:24:10,290 they were spinning flax fibers oh the 475 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:13,230 the creative explosion was was literally 476 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:14,700 this time period where people started 477 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:19,410 making things painting why exactly okay 478 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,480 there's another little blip that happens 479 00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:24,480 around 25,000 years ago it's where we 480 00:24:31,490 --> 00:24:28,400 find the Venus figures coming into play 481 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:31,500 weaponry advanced at that point I'm not 482 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:34,050 a major blip but what happens after each 483 00:24:39,830 --> 00:24:37,650 of these blips is big thing of activity 484 00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:39,840 and then nothing and then another big 485 00:24:45,020 --> 00:24:42,500 thing of activity and then nothing 486 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:45,030 10,000 years ago like around the time of 487 00:24:49,310 --> 00:24:47,490 after the flood if the flood was eleven 488 00:24:53,270 --> 00:24:49,320 thousand five hundred years ago we have 489 00:24:56,860 --> 00:24:53,280 the rise of agriculture we also find 490 00:25:00,350 --> 00:24:56,870 that it's when we domesticated animals 491 00:25:03,410 --> 00:25:00,360 we started forming small villages you 492 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:03,420 know and so there is this and like and 493 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:07,170 when we started domesticating plants it 494 00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:09,630 wasn't just that we domesticated wheat 495 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:11,580 in the Middle East it was the wheat got 496 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:13,410 domesticated in the Middle East 497 00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:17,450 rice was domesticated in China and corn 498 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:20,340 was domesticated in the Americas which 499 00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:21,809 they still can't figure out how the heck 500 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:25,190 they hit it so that's in the new book 501 00:25:30,530 --> 00:25:28,290 you know in the same thing with 502 00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:30,540 domesticating animals this is one of my 503 00:25:37,810 --> 00:25:32,340 favorite lines to share 504 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:37,820 so between 8500 BC to about 2500 BC 505 00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:41,450 every animal that has been domesticated 506 00:25:48,169 --> 00:25:45,059 was domesticated alladhina how many 507 00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:48,179 animals in our rise of education and 508 00:26:02,600 --> 00:25:51,380 technology have been domesticated since 509 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:02,610 2500 BC - uh none zero so how did they 510 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:05,520 know how to do it and we don't have a 511 00:26:09,989 --> 00:26:07,330 clue 512 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:09,999 we've had the same amount of time we've 513 00:26:18,419 --> 00:26:15,730 had the same amount of time what so your 514 00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:18,429 line of thought here is that there's a 515 00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:22,360 shared information or we weren't the 516 00:26:28,979 --> 00:26:25,440 ones that domesticated them I see okay I 517 00:26:32,129 --> 00:26:28,989 mean all right so that's down to us or 518 00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:32,139 we just it was taught to us or it was 519 00:26:40,220 --> 00:26:35,679 passed down and inherited by well I'm 520 00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:43,259 agricultural domestication because 521 00:26:49,139 --> 00:26:46,269 there's not really evidence glaring 522 00:26:50,970 --> 00:26:49,149 evidence in animal domestication but I 523 00:26:54,749 --> 00:26:50,980 think this will make give you the point 524 00:26:57,239 --> 00:26:54,759 so 30,000 years ago there was a 525 00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,249 miraculous event I love that it was a 526 00:27:04,049 --> 00:26:59,679 miraculous event that happened in the 527 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:04,059 plant kingdom and a form of and I get 528 00:27:12,349 --> 00:27:07,710 these backwards Emmer wheat 529 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:12,359 made it with a form of go grass and if 530 00:27:18,899 --> 00:27:17,289 by-product was Elmer wheat Elkhorn weed 531 00:27:21,749 --> 00:27:18,909 maybe it's backwards but anyway 532 00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:21,759 and so usually in nature if two 533 00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:24,460 different species made so if you have a 534 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:29,470 lie zebra and a horse that made the 535 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:33,369 offspring are infertile because it's 536 00:27:38,399 --> 00:27:36,129 just how you know or if you take a horse 537 00:27:40,139 --> 00:27:38,409 and a donkey and they make them you old 538 00:27:46,399 --> 00:27:40,149 they're infertile that's just how it 539 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:46,409 works but somehow miraculously this 540 00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:50,230 brain that crossbred produce viable 541 00:27:55,379 --> 00:27:52,840 offspring and the part that I think is 542 00:27:57,749 --> 00:27:55,389 even better is that it produced viable 543 00:28:00,330 --> 00:27:57,759 offspring and somehow survived and 544 00:28:03,450 --> 00:28:00,340 spread okay 545 00:28:06,779 --> 00:28:03,460 so now we have this in corn wheat that 546 00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:06,789 is hanging around and people in corn 547 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:09,340 wheat has more gluten and so it allowed 548 00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,369 the very early bread makers to make more 549 00:28:17,399 --> 00:28:14,799 of a risen bread versus kind of like a 550 00:28:19,739 --> 00:28:17,409 pita bread okay so if there was 551 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:19,749 definitely a benefit from this new kind 552 00:28:24,210 --> 00:28:20,320 of grain 553 00:28:28,050 --> 00:28:24,220 so 30,000 years goes by goes by goes by 554 00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:28,060 well then 10,000 years ago we had 555 00:28:34,650 --> 00:28:30,880 another miraculous event that happened 556 00:28:37,740 --> 00:28:34,660 and that in corn wheat mated with a for 557 00:28:40,650 --> 00:28:37,750 another form of grass and made it into 558 00:28:44,150 --> 00:28:40,660 what we find as modern wheat today that 559 00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:44,160 was also reproducible well and 560 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:46,540 scientists don't understand how those 561 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:48,940 two genetic anomalies occurred they 562 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:50,470 don't understand it they try to 563 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:53,710 reproduce it in lab and in this one 564 00:28:57,390 --> 00:28:55,390 article basically they said well we have 565 00:28:59,250 --> 00:28:57,400 to mix it with a bunch of chemicals we 566 00:29:04,170 --> 00:28:59,260 have to do this in this in order to get 567 00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:04,180 that viable offspring to happen yeah or 568 00:29:06,420 --> 00:29:06,070 they slice splicing or something like 569 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:06,430 that 570 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:11,650 didn't know it was a miracle of nature 571 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:13,360 it just slipped up I mean that's what 572 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:15,430 they want us to believe and so I think 573 00:29:19,850 --> 00:29:17,650 this a similar thing happened in the 574 00:29:24,990 --> 00:29:19,860 domestication of animals is that they 575 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:25,000 did something to make them be that way 576 00:29:32,490 --> 00:29:28,000 and then they stopped and then it was up 577 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:32,500 to us and we're stupid so well you know 578 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:34,240 it's um we're coming up on the break so 579 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:36,010 we will talk about more miraculous 580 00:29:41,370 --> 00:29:38,410 happenings in our history in just a 581 00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:41,380 couple of minutes I'm speaking with dr. 582 00:29:47,790 --> 00:29:45,160 Rita Lewis and yeah this is going to be 583 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:47,800 one heck of a ride tonight so hang in 584 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:49,840 there this is Alan B Smith for the 585 00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:51,910 inception radio network we're gonna dig 586 00:29:58,020 --> 00:29:54,030 down deep into our history 587 00:30:03,240 --> 00:29:58,030 extraterrestrials aka gods stay tuned 588 00:30:03,250 --> 00:30:09,739 [Music] 589 00:30:13,769 --> 00:30:11,969 welcome back to paranormal now I'm your 590 00:30:16,859 --> 00:30:13,779 host Alan B Smith I'm talking to dr. 591 00:30:18,049 --> 00:30:16,869 Rita Lewis and we are discussing all 592 00:30:21,539 --> 00:30:18,059 things 593 00:30:23,639 --> 00:30:21,549 mysterious and miraculous and taking us 594 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:23,649 out of the break was something happened 595 00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:25,929 on the way to heaven by Phil Collins one 596 00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:28,629 of my favorites so dr. Rita Louise we 597 00:30:38,489 --> 00:30:33,960 were speaking about this sort of sudden 598 00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:38,499 percolation of a breed of wheat that 599 00:30:45,419 --> 00:30:41,769 scientists can't explain how it came to 600 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,429 be other than their own attempts at you 601 00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:47,200 know chemically or scientifically 602 00:30:53,509 --> 00:30:50,769 intervening to make it make it so so 603 00:30:57,180 --> 00:30:53,519 that leaves us hanging what do you think 604 00:30:59,580 --> 00:30:57,190 cause I mean I think that it was 605 00:31:02,639 --> 00:30:59,590 genetically engineered I I don't think 606 00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:02,649 that I mean it's kind of a two-part 607 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:05,590 process so we have the genetic miracle 608 00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:08,529 that happened I you know but then 609 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:11,080 there's the part okay so I have two 610 00:31:18,930 --> 00:31:14,609 plants that cross pollinate that 611 00:31:23,789 --> 00:31:18,940 produced seeds what is the likelihood 612 00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:23,799 that that one plant of seeds is going to 613 00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:26,529 as I said in my writing create a 614 00:31:36,479 --> 00:31:32,169 revolution that it would spread so far 615 00:31:38,489 --> 00:31:36,489 that early hunter-gatherers you know 616 00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:38,499 because we're talking about 30,000 years 617 00:31:43,259 --> 00:31:39,279 ago 618 00:31:47,339 --> 00:31:43,269 I'm recognized is that this grain was 619 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:47,349 different and started to save it or do 620 00:31:53,159 --> 00:31:49,690 something with it you know I mean it 621 00:31:55,589 --> 00:31:53,169 just it's just one of those things that 622 00:31:58,979 --> 00:31:55,599 I end up reading going hmm 623 00:32:01,619 --> 00:31:58,989 yeah right I find it interesting because 624 00:32:06,269 --> 00:32:01,629 there's so much stuff that you read 625 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:06,279 about that comes from scientists where 626 00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:08,320 they say well we really don't know how 627 00:32:13,469 --> 00:32:10,840 that happened or wow that occurred in a 628 00:32:17,999 --> 00:32:13,479 really short period of time or you know 629 00:32:19,469 --> 00:32:18,009 they're even dumbfounded and they 630 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:19,479 couldn't use just like just like 631 00:32:22,409 --> 00:32:20,770 splicing where you 632 00:32:24,750 --> 00:32:22,419 you know how where you kind of slit a 633 00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:24,760 little cut into a tree and then you you 634 00:32:28,289 --> 00:32:26,140 know take the branch event of the tree 635 00:32:30,090 --> 00:32:28,299 and then you wrap it and you know that 636 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:30,100 the way they would sort of blend apple 637 00:32:35,789 --> 00:32:32,260 trees there was no known mechanism 638 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,799 natural way for doing that right not at 639 00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:37,840 that point in time they didn't even have 640 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:40,870 agriculture at that point in time yeah 641 00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:41,490 interesting 642 00:32:48,919 --> 00:32:44,440 I remember hearing an interview recently 643 00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:48,929 with Neil deGrasse Tyson Titan Tyson and 644 00:32:52,889 --> 00:32:51,190 you know he they were he was making the 645 00:32:56,610 --> 00:32:52,899 argument for genetically modified 646 00:32:59,340 --> 00:32:56,620 essentially you know saying that well 647 00:33:01,409 --> 00:32:59,350 human beings have spliced you know 648 00:33:05,130 --> 00:33:01,419 different sort of plants together you 649 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:05,140 know for a long time so us and going in 650 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,330 and just like you know putting a new 651 00:33:11,850 --> 00:33:10,000 genetic gene or you know mixing genes in 652 00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:11,860 a lab is no different than a farmer who 653 00:33:16,049 --> 00:33:14,230 learned how to do it from his dad 654 00:33:18,269 --> 00:33:16,059 crossing two different breeds of apple 655 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:18,279 tree or a peach with the plum tree and 656 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:22,690 um you know I I really took offense to 657 00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:24,610 that because these are scientists and I 658 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:26,350 and I thought that's really I feel like 659 00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:29,770 offensive to our own understanding of 660 00:33:36,899 --> 00:33:33,360 how science and genetics works because 661 00:33:40,110 --> 00:33:36,909 you you can't put a spider into his 662 00:33:42,510 --> 00:33:40,120 little cut bark of an of an apple tree 663 00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:42,520 and wrap it up and then the apple tree 664 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:44,409 is going to have spider genes and you're 665 00:33:48,419 --> 00:33:46,690 gonna have some sort of mutated super 666 00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:48,429 apple plant it's not gonna happen 667 00:33:57,330 --> 00:33:52,740 yet basically force those genes into 668 00:33:59,250 --> 00:33:57,340 that the genes of the Apple in a lab so 669 00:34:02,310 --> 00:33:59,260 it seems to me that it's on a somewhat 670 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:02,320 similar par to you know to get to what 671 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:05,260 you what you're speaking of for ancients 672 00:34:10,889 --> 00:34:07,480 to have developed what they did then it 673 00:34:13,409 --> 00:34:10,899 seems almost parallel to what we have to 674 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:13,419 do in order to you know splice a spider 675 00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:15,010 into a plant I mean maybe I'm way off 676 00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:18,280 but that's kind of our ancestors 677 00:34:24,359 --> 00:34:20,830 actually did it if they actually did it 678 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:24,369 right you know I mean I think it's it 679 00:34:28,169 --> 00:34:25,929 pretty simplistic because if you take a 680 00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:28,179 Macintosh and a Granny Smith they're 681 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:30,339 both species of apples and so there 682 00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:32,169 shouldn't be the ability to cross 683 00:34:38,380 --> 00:34:34,270 pollinate and 684 00:34:40,930 --> 00:34:38,390 my granny's or something you know that's 685 00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:40,940 a possibility but it you know if you 686 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:43,280 take a lion and a tiger they're two 687 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:45,050 different species and if you get them to 688 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:47,330 me you know it would be like actually a 689 00:34:51,250 --> 00:34:49,010 better example it would be and this is 690 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:51,260 kind of nasty but if you took a human 691 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:54,770 and a ruler or a chimpanzee and you put 692 00:35:00,130 --> 00:34:56,210 them together because you know we our 693 00:35:02,490 --> 00:35:00,140 DNA is 98% the same and have an 694 00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:02,500 expectation that we would create a 695 00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:09,470 ape-man offspring when it happens no but 696 00:35:18,580 --> 00:35:12,950 who do you think who are these gods who 697 00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:18,590 who did this well when you start reading 698 00:35:23,110 --> 00:35:20,720 the mythic record you know one of the 699 00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:23,120 things that you find out is that the 700 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:28,880 gods take on many shapes and forms some 701 00:35:35,290 --> 00:35:31,130 of them are described as being Caucasian 702 00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:35,300 with long flowing hair some of them are 703 00:35:41,620 --> 00:35:38,620 described as being half man half serpent 704 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:41,630 there are some that are described as 705 00:35:46,750 --> 00:35:44,510 being Giants as tallest trees and as big 706 00:35:49,390 --> 00:35:46,760 as mountains there are some that are 707 00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:49,400 described as Dwarfs I mean so we find 708 00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:53,720 this variety of descriptions when we 709 00:35:59,530 --> 00:35:57,460 talk about the god pantheon 710 00:36:03,460 --> 00:35:59,540 you know and when you look at like 711 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:03,470 Indian cosmology you know they describe 712 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:05,930 some of the gods as having you know 50 713 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:09,650 heads and 50 arms or Indra had four 714 00:36:14,770 --> 00:36:12,770 heads and four arms six heads and four 715 00:36:17,950 --> 00:36:14,780 he had a bunch of heads and arms you 716 00:36:20,770 --> 00:36:17,960 know our faces and and that's just part 717 00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:20,780 of their belief system you know we have 718 00:36:24,820 --> 00:36:22,910 one Indian God that his head was chopped 719 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:24,830 off and so he took the head of an 720 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:29,630 elephant to use it you know and so they 721 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:32,810 aren't always represented or talked 722 00:36:38,140 --> 00:36:35,510 about and described as being you 723 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:38,150 necessarily even humanoid I mean I guess 724 00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:39,890 there humanoid because they have a head 725 00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:43,910 and arms and legs but not human in the 726 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:46,990 way that we think we were created in 727 00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:51,280 image kind of human um you know the gods 728 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:53,320 are always described is not living on 729 00:36:56,850 --> 00:36:55,210 the earth they're described as living in 730 00:36:58,410 --> 00:36:56,860 the sky they're described as living deep 731 00:37:01,310 --> 00:36:58,420 within the earth or underneath the 732 00:37:03,930 --> 00:37:01,320 Earth's waters they're described as 733 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:03,940 flying through the air and fiery 734 00:37:11,609 --> 00:37:07,360 chariots I mean there's there's so much 735 00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:11,619 information that when you read it it 736 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:15,070 doesn't correlate with this militant god 737 00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:18,490 that we've all been told is the one 738 00:37:23,820 --> 00:37:20,590 we're supposed to believe in which is 739 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:23,830 why I really had to focus that this is 740 00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:26,710 to the Western world because in India 741 00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:29,230 they believed that you know they 742 00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:33,430 believed that Rama flew on a vimana when 743 00:37:38,609 --> 00:37:36,160 he after he killed the demon god of 744 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:38,619 Lanka who was a giant and had multiple 745 00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:40,290 heads and had a vimana 746 00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:43,180 you know they believe that that's part 747 00:37:48,359 --> 00:37:46,750 of their religion sure and and we were 748 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:48,369 just watching the movie Wonder Woman I 749 00:37:55,290 --> 00:37:52,510 don't know if you saw it but I couldn't 750 00:37:58,859 --> 00:37:55,300 help notice the parallel between Aries 751 00:38:00,540 --> 00:37:58,869 and Lucifer you know Aries rebelling 752 00:38:02,130 --> 00:38:00,550 against the Zeus's creation and then you 753 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:02,140 have Lucifer rebelling against God's 754 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:04,930 creation because they're both angry that 755 00:38:10,859 --> 00:38:08,080 he created you know these really messed 756 00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:10,869 up beings you know with lots of problems 757 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:14,590 and and psychological issues and and I 758 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:15,850 and I thought you know that's just 759 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:19,330 another example and I don't I don't know 760 00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:21,790 which came first do you were the Greeks 761 00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:25,119 earlier then or not so much because I 762 00:38:33,330 --> 00:38:29,670 guess if it came from a sort of Sumerian 763 00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,340 timeline origin then I guess the Greeks 764 00:38:36,690 --> 00:38:35,200 came later I what do you think yeah I 765 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:36,700 mean the Greece were definitely later 766 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:40,150 the Greeks were you know I mean 767 00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:42,460 Alexander the Great who was agreed was 768 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:45,280 333 BC you know and then the Romans 769 00:38:49,470 --> 00:38:48,130 followed right behind them but they 770 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:49,480 probably did they not get some of the 771 00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:51,369 myths from you know origins of 772 00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:54,160 Mesopotamians and and the Sumerians 773 00:39:00,059 --> 00:38:56,470 ultimately 774 00:39:03,690 --> 00:39:00,069 but here's the interesting thing you 775 00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:03,700 find parallel myths in Australia which 776 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:07,750 was populated 60,000 years ago and you 777 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:10,089 find parallel myths in the Americas 778 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:13,530 which was populated somewhere you know 779 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:18,130 13,000 plus years ago long before the 780 00:39:23,579 --> 00:39:21,369 Sumerians so where did those stories 781 00:39:26,609 --> 00:39:23,589 come from I mean one of the things that 782 00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:26,619 I contend is that when you talk about 783 00:39:34,319 --> 00:39:31,599 this pantheon of odds that really were 784 00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:34,329 just talking about one group of gods 785 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:37,240 we're talking about a specific fertility 786 00:39:44,309 --> 00:39:41,050 God we're talking about a specific sky 787 00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:44,319 god who would be like inky you know but 788 00:39:50,490 --> 00:39:49,060 it's inky or Zeus or causal coital you 789 00:39:52,530 --> 00:39:50,500 know what I mean they have different 790 00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:52,540 names in different cultures but we're 791 00:39:58,530 --> 00:39:55,270 talking about the same person because 792 00:40:01,950 --> 00:39:58,540 the iconography the attributes 793 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:01,960 associated with that individual are all 794 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:05,410 the same they're all the same and there 795 00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:08,770 are some overlapping as well so you know 796 00:40:14,010 --> 00:40:10,390 one figure in one culture might 797 00:40:16,109 --> 00:40:14,020 encompass certain two or three 798 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:16,119 attributes that I'm overlap with another 799 00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:20,640 figure from another culture a memory 800 00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:23,670 actually if you could actually explain 801 00:40:29,940 --> 00:40:28,240 the Sun symbol the winged Sun symbol and 802 00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:29,950 I think that was that's a really good 803 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:31,270 way because I think people people can 804 00:40:35,849 --> 00:40:32,770 actually visualize that in their head 805 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:35,859 they've seen probably enough imagery so 806 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:37,390 what are the parallels there between all 807 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:40,450 the different cultures okay hmm okay I'm 808 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:43,030 gonna have to like find that file okay 809 00:40:49,650 --> 00:40:46,960 in my brain that is okay so in Egypt I 810 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:49,660 think people are familiar with the image 811 00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:52,810 of the winged disc you know so there is 812 00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:55,990 the circle of the Sun and it has two big 813 00:41:02,790 --> 00:40:58,450 you know kind of Eagle looking wings 814 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,800 coming off the sides okay but Sumerian 815 00:41:07,319 --> 00:41:05,440 culture preceded Egyptian culture so I 816 00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:07,329 have to kind of but we'll start with 817 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:08,000 that 818 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:13,130 visual and so in Sumerian Arcadian and 819 00:41:21,070 --> 00:41:16,250 Babylonian culture they have their 820 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:21,080 supreme deity you know in in Akkadian it 821 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:25,370 was some shamash but anyway so they have 822 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:29,570 this imagery of the God you know so it's 823 00:41:35,350 --> 00:41:32,000 kind of like the upper half of the God 824 00:41:38,130 --> 00:41:35,360 sitting inside the circle with these 825 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:38,140 wings coming off of it which many people 826 00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:40,970 correlate to it's some kind of a some 827 00:41:46,930 --> 00:41:44,390 kind of a spaceship and so and coming 828 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:46,940 off of that are these different rays 8 829 00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:51,650 rays and so when in other images if 830 00:41:57,730 --> 00:41:54,710 there was a circle that had these eight 831 00:42:00,970 --> 00:41:57,740 rays coming off of it it was the 832 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:00,980 implication that the power and the 833 00:42:08,590 --> 00:42:04,610 energy of God was with you or was with 834 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:08,600 that person so Oh with that kind of base 835 00:42:13,210 --> 00:42:10,610 knowledge till we have a circle with 836 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:13,220 these rays coming off of it with the 837 00:42:19,330 --> 00:42:16,730 wings is the representation of the power 838 00:42:21,370 --> 00:42:19,340 of God being with you but now we go back 839 00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:21,380 to the Egyptians and we have this circle 840 00:42:25,930 --> 00:42:23,300 with these wings coming off it it 841 00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:25,940 doesn't have the Rays but again it's 842 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:28,220 kind of like that Excel spreadsheet you 843 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:30,410 have some stuff carried hear some stuff 844 00:42:36,910 --> 00:42:33,050 carried they're taken as a whole you get 845 00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:36,920 a big picture but sometimes details 846 00:42:46,270 --> 00:42:41,510 might drop off but then you come to the 847 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:46,280 Americas and you have images of the 848 00:42:54,670 --> 00:42:51,050 Supreme God Viracocha and many times it 849 00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:54,680 is the image of a man holding two 850 00:43:02,980 --> 00:42:58,880 serpents but around his head is like a 851 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:02,990 halo of rays now some of the rays are 852 00:43:07,780 --> 00:43:05,450 actually serpents there are seven 853 00:43:14,410 --> 00:43:07,790 serpents represented and then there are 854 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,420 eight points represented and so but that 855 00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:16,880 is also the representation of the God so 856 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:21,220 you know we get that same knowledge 857 00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:25,450 you find it in New Mexico where they 858 00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:29,020 have like the New Mexico flag it's a big 859 00:43:35,130 --> 00:43:32,920 circle and then it has like raised kind 860 00:43:36,750 --> 00:43:35,140 of coming out the Jew side I mean all 861 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:36,760 you have to do is really start looking 862 00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:40,210 for that basic image and you start 863 00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:43,240 seeing it everywhere you know and one of 864 00:43:47,550 --> 00:43:45,700 the things that I put in that my movie 865 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:47,560 icon deconstructing the archetypes of 866 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:50,050 the Ancients when I looked at that is 867 00:43:58,050 --> 00:43:54,910 perhaps the notion of a halo you know so 868 00:44:00,780 --> 00:43:58,060 when we look at like Christian art if 869 00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:00,790 it's a saint or if it's Jesus there's 870 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:04,150 always that halo going around the head 871 00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:07,210 of the holy person or the real you know 872 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:10,710 the high religious person if the 873 00:44:20,940 --> 00:44:14,770 utilization of the halo actually goes 874 00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:20,950 back to those images of on our shamash 875 00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:25,660 in his winged disc back to Sumerian 876 00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:27,940 times which represented the power of God 877 00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,400 in these individuals because that's what 878 00:44:36,059 --> 00:44:32,800 holy people are you know God works 879 00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:36,069 through them so are we still carrying 880 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:39,849 that same iconography forward to this 881 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:44,530 day and I think that you make the 882 00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:48,690 argument then that these aren't just 883 00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:52,300 psychological natural psychological mind 884 00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:56,670 permutations of the human mind in 885 00:45:02,370 --> 00:45:00,400 artistic form that to say that these 886 00:45:05,579 --> 00:45:02,380 different cultures disparate cultures 887 00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:05,589 around the world didn't just naturally 888 00:45:11,130 --> 00:45:08,020 come out with these similar symbols and 889 00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,140 gods and figures around the same period 890 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:13,359 of time on their own because it's 891 00:45:19,130 --> 00:45:16,089 natural but because there was another 892 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:19,140 outside force or impetus causing this 893 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:22,210 correct that they were all talking about 894 00:45:27,390 --> 00:45:24,930 and representing the same thing 895 00:45:29,069 --> 00:45:27,400 okay well during the break we were 896 00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:29,079 talking about how you should be on 897 00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:32,380 ancient aliens and and and I agree and I 898 00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:34,830 think you you would be great 899 00:45:39,810 --> 00:45:38,710 but I wonder would you would you do you 900 00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:39,820 think you would offer them a little bit 901 00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:42,750 of a challenge with some of your 902 00:45:53,810 --> 00:45:50,340 or what I've heard that I've heard them 903 00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:53,820 say some really weird stuff you know and 904 00:46:03,060 --> 00:45:58,210 I can tone it down a little bit you know 905 00:46:04,859 --> 00:46:03,070 I mean III know I mean I don't think I 906 00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,869 mean I joke around and tell people that 907 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:06,880 I'm the person that mines the driest 908 00:46:11,730 --> 00:46:09,250 most boring book sitting on your library 909 00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:11,740 shelf and reads it and then turns around 910 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:17,590 and reiterated in useable form mm-hmm 911 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:20,290 you know I think you know kind of talk 912 00:46:24,570 --> 00:46:21,790 about ancient aliens but from what I 913 00:46:26,060 --> 00:46:24,580 understand they give you kind of an idea 914 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:26,070 of what they want to talk to you about 915 00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,170 you know so you can go and kind of pull 916 00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:31,119 your thoughts together well you know if 917 00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:32,680 they don't want me to go too far out 918 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:35,080 there even though and I don't think my 919 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:36,970 thoughts are really that far out there I 920 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:39,810 think that when I put out a statement I 921 00:46:46,140 --> 00:46:43,570 either have material to back it up and 922 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:46,150 give it credibility I mean I really 923 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:48,850 don't just make something up and if I do 924 00:46:54,930 --> 00:46:51,970 kind of make something up I'm usually 925 00:46:57,980 --> 00:46:54,940 very clear that well I don't know about 926 00:47:00,900 --> 00:46:57,990 this but this is kind of what I think 927 00:47:04,050 --> 00:47:00,910 you know in in my book ET chronicles 928 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:04,060 I'll share this story with you it talks 929 00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:08,410 about these different periods of time 930 00:47:14,190 --> 00:47:10,270 you know the Golden Age the Silver Age 931 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:14,200 the Bronze Age the Iron Age but in some 932 00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,330 cultures there are actually five cycles 933 00:47:21,450 --> 00:47:18,640 so in the Mayan calendar you know they 934 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:21,460 talked about the five cycles well I had 935 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:24,970 a really hard time correlating how some 936 00:47:29,849 --> 00:47:27,330 could have four and some could have five 937 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:29,859 but I finally figured it out 938 00:47:35,849 --> 00:47:32,530 because in many of these cultures the 939 00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:35,859 ones that have five it's the second 940 00:47:41,849 --> 00:47:39,040 cycle that's the Golden Age not the 941 00:47:45,150 --> 00:47:41,859 first cycle and so the first cycle talks 942 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:45,160 about this planet or the you know weird 943 00:47:48,910 --> 00:47:46,970 where the gods lived and it was 944 00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:48,920 I'm a dark earth and they talk about 945 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:50,990 darkness and you find this very 946 00:47:59,020 --> 00:47:52,970 consistent in cultures that have this 947 00:48:01,740 --> 00:47:59,030 first unnamed age and and then there was 948 00:48:05,410 --> 00:48:01,750 a destruction event that occurred and 949 00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:05,420 the inference was they went to somewhere 950 00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:09,520 else and they created a new world and 951 00:48:17,610 --> 00:48:13,580 brought on the golden age so I was like 952 00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:17,620 okay so if coming to earth and 953 00:48:25,770 --> 00:48:22,900 populating earth set off the golden age 954 00:48:28,590 --> 00:48:25,780 well then where were they before I 955 00:48:34,810 --> 00:48:28,600 thought that was a pretty valid question 956 00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,820 so just kind of you know all right I 957 00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:36,800 pulled this one out of my body okay and 958 00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:39,200 I freely admit I said well maybe they 959 00:48:43,450 --> 00:48:40,910 went to Mars first you know you got 960 00:48:46,660 --> 00:48:43,460 those phases on Mars and the pyramid 961 00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:46,670 structures at Cydonia and I'm like well 962 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:49,760 let me kind of know look at it there's 963 00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:51,650 nothing wrong with speculation and 964 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:53,600 hypothesis I mean you have to start 965 00:48:58,270 --> 00:48:54,640 somewhere 966 00:49:01,420 --> 00:48:58,280 well what was interesting was that there 967 00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:01,430 was a period of time in the development 968 00:49:06,460 --> 00:49:04,040 of Mars that scientists have identified 969 00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:06,470 that if there was life going to form on 970 00:49:09,340 --> 00:49:08,180 Mars it would have been during the 971 00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:09,350 Nokian era 972 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:15,830 years ago which happened to fit 973 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:20,810 perfectly into my timeline and then the 974 00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:23,330 atmosphere on Mars got destroyed well if 975 00:49:28,450 --> 00:49:25,760 you know there is this big destruction 976 00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:28,460 in this semi dark world and they had to 977 00:49:33,610 --> 00:49:32,000 flee well doesn't that doesn't even 978 00:49:36,010 --> 00:49:33,620 doesn't even the story sound like it 979 00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:36,020 fits so I put it in I'm like you know 980 00:49:41,530 --> 00:49:37,310 people can hate me for it I don't care 981 00:49:44,110 --> 00:49:41,540 it works sometimes sometimes you might 982 00:49:46,780 --> 00:49:44,120 get lucky and it does work out yeah but 983 00:49:48,070 --> 00:49:46,790 it did make me think and I'm not 984 00:49:50,830 --> 00:49:48,080 knocking you on this at all but it made 985 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:50,840 me think about Terence Mckenna he had in 986 00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:52,850 his younger years written to covert in a 987 00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:54,470 book with his brother and I think it was 988 00:49:59,590 --> 00:49:58,250 a time wave zero and this was the first 989 00:50:00,510 --> 00:49:59,600 things actually he had mentioned earlier 990 00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:00,520 that got me in 991 00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:04,630 to 2012 and became fascinated because 992 00:50:10,290 --> 00:50:08,500 his time wave zero ended like the 993 00:50:16,050 --> 00:50:10,300 history based on some algorithm that he 994 00:50:19,050 --> 00:50:16,060 his brother created ended on 2012 so 995 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:19,060 really yeah and this is just you know by 996 00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:20,890 coincidence and this was in the 70s late 997 00:50:25,950 --> 00:50:24,190 70s I think when he wrote the book and 998 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:25,960 unfortunately Terence Mckenna passed 999 00:50:31,710 --> 00:50:28,770 away before he could see the time come 1000 00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:31,720 but I thought wow you know the Mayan 1001 00:50:37,710 --> 00:50:34,720 calendar is ending and 2012 this time 1002 00:50:42,570 --> 00:50:37,720 wave zero is ending on 2012 and some of 1003 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:42,580 its there was one other theory for a 1004 00:50:47,130 --> 00:50:44,890 time line I'm drawing a blank now but 1005 00:50:48,990 --> 00:50:47,140 point is I thought oh my gosh this is 1006 00:50:51,450 --> 00:50:49,000 this is that can't be a coincidence this 1007 00:50:53,310 --> 00:50:51,460 is crazy so I really got became 1008 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:53,320 fascinated with it and of course 2012 1009 00:50:59,880 --> 00:50:56,410 has come and passed so it's not to say 1010 00:51:02,610 --> 00:50:59,890 that the work was you know was bad maybe 1011 00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:02,620 there there was something that happened 1012 00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:03,940 maybe there really was a shift cuz I 1013 00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:04,990 could tell you right now I feel like 1014 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:08,350 America isn't a major shift major and in 1015 00:51:13,890 --> 00:51:11,530 the world world is with us on that so 1016 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:13,900 I'm open I think that I think that what 1017 00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:16,450 you what you're saying is is a really 1018 00:51:20,250 --> 00:51:18,670 good place to start and you know it'll 1019 00:51:20,970 --> 00:51:20,260 be interesting to see where you take it 1020 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:20,980 from here 1021 00:51:29,370 --> 00:51:25,110 so let me let me ask you oh no go ahead 1022 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:29,380 well I mean I was a huge Mayan calendar 1023 00:51:35,250 --> 00:51:32,650 December 21st 2012 skeptic because I did 1024 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:35,260 not find enough evidence to support the 1025 00:51:40,290 --> 00:51:37,930 date which I won't go into that whole 1026 00:51:43,230 --> 00:51:40,300 thing but there was something that was 1027 00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:43,240 very interesting that did come out that 1028 00:51:48,540 --> 00:51:46,480 in my research you know they talked 1029 00:51:50,850 --> 00:51:48,550 about that that cycle and and you know 1030 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:50,860 please forgive me for night it was three 1031 00:51:55,860 --> 00:51:52,810 thousand one hundred and four hundred 1032 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:55,870 and some odd year whatever I don't 1033 00:51:59,370 --> 00:51:57,370 remember what the number was from the 1034 00:52:01,410 --> 00:51:59,380 beginning of the cycle to the end of the 1035 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:01,420 cycle but it was three thousand one 1036 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:03,130 hundred hunt one hundred years 1037 00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:06,310 well what was interesting was that there 1038 00:52:13,230 --> 00:52:08,350 were new beginnings 1039 00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:13,240 that happened in Indian cosmology 1040 00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:17,350 as well as in Jewish cosmology that date 1041 00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:21,250 to around that same period and so we had 1042 00:52:25,859 --> 00:52:22,990 the beginning of the new cycle in the 1043 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:25,869 Mayan calendar we had the day that 1044 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:28,690 Krishna left the earth and brought on 1045 00:52:32,550 --> 00:52:30,970 the Kali Yuga which was three thousand 1046 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:32,560 four hundred and so on 1047 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:35,290 you know right in that same period and 1048 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:39,250 the Jewish calendar begins at like three 1049 00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:42,610 thousand seven hundred and something you 1050 00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:44,110 know and and then you have to take into 1051 00:52:48,060 --> 00:52:45,790 consideration you know we've changed our 1052 00:52:49,890 --> 00:52:48,070 calendar fifty times and you know what 1053 00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:49,900 is the real date if we were going back 1054 00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:54,430 to the old date but it seems like there 1055 00:53:01,620 --> 00:52:59,050 was something that happened in that time 1056 00:53:04,859 --> 00:53:01,630 period what it is I don't know I 1057 00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:04,869 couldn't find any anything to support it 1058 00:53:10,590 --> 00:53:08,200 other than all three of them talk about 1059 00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:10,600 a new beginning you know a new phase of 1060 00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:15,400 the cycle so okay if what was your 1061 00:53:23,849 --> 00:53:21,369 question yeah no that's good you know in 1062 00:53:26,250 --> 00:53:23,859 this beginning you we were speaking 1063 00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:26,260 about five cycles in that beginning 1064 00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:32,430 cycle or even today these demigods or 1065 00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:38,350 pre human gods or you know demigods of a 1066 00:53:44,609 --> 00:53:40,630 greater God whatever they are you know 1067 00:53:49,230 --> 00:53:44,619 do they come here in flying saucers do 1068 00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:49,240 they come here in spaceships okay 1069 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:53,350 I mean we've briefly mentioned the fiery 1070 00:54:00,420 --> 00:53:57,490 chariot you know cut it those are 1071 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:00,430 typically identified as how the gods 1072 00:54:07,220 --> 00:54:03,010 came from the heavens down to the earth 1073 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:07,230 that was their mode of transportation in 1074 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:10,930 Norse cosmology they have bit from us 1075 00:54:17,099 --> 00:54:13,810 which if anybody's seen Thor you know 1076 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:17,109 it's kind of like the you know they're 1077 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:19,330 going across that shiny bridge because 1078 00:54:24,900 --> 00:54:21,850 it's often reflected or referred to as 1079 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:24,910 the Rainbow Bridge but then you know he 1080 00:54:29,710 --> 00:54:26,570 goes into that kind 1081 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:29,720 wormhole transporter thing that leaves 1082 00:54:35,020 --> 00:54:31,850 him on the earth you know so that was 1083 00:54:38,830 --> 00:54:35,030 kind of their mode of transportation but 1084 00:54:45,310 --> 00:54:38,840 what's interesting in the Mahabharata it 1085 00:54:48,670 --> 00:54:45,320 talks about this thing the word escapes 1086 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:48,680 me but anyway it talks about the homes 1087 00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:53,210 of five of the major gods and when they 1088 00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:55,400 describe these homes which kind of 1089 00:55:02,890 --> 00:54:58,640 sounds like Olympus you know not Mount 1090 00:55:04,750 --> 00:55:02,900 Olympus but Olympus but it was a place 1091 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:04,760 where hundreds of thousands of people 1092 00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:06,650 could live and they all had different 1093 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:09,230 homes in there and some were made of 1094 00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:11,210 gold and some were made of silver and 1095 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:13,310 some were made of different kinds of 1096 00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:16,250 metal depending on you know their rank 1097 00:55:23,470 --> 00:55:19,190 and status they had gardens they had all 1098 00:55:25,570 --> 00:55:23,480 of these things in these homes of the 1099 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:25,580 gods now 1100 00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:27,530 these homes of the gods could travel 1101 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:29,600 anywhere they wanted was just a thought 1102 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:31,970 they could fly through the sky they 1103 00:55:43,150 --> 00:55:37,850 could go under the water the smallest 1104 00:55:45,970 --> 00:55:43,160 one based on a my conversion of the 1105 00:55:49,540 --> 00:55:45,980 measurement was something like 300 by 1106 00:55:54,490 --> 00:55:49,550 500 miles whoa that was the smallest one 1107 00:55:57,010 --> 00:55:54,500 it was huge okay now I mean these are 1108 00:55:58,900 --> 00:55:57,020 mothership size their mothership size 1109 00:56:05,500 --> 00:55:58,910 and so you know they use these fiery 1110 00:56:07,450 --> 00:56:05,510 chariots to go from heaven or Olympus I 1111 00:56:11,860 --> 00:56:07,460 mean because what is heaven heaven is 1112 00:56:13,330 --> 00:56:11,870 where God lives right true well where 1113 00:56:16,930 --> 00:56:13,340 did the gods live they live in that 1114 00:56:18,610 --> 00:56:16,940 mother ship that's circling the earth 1115 00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:18,620 and they're taking their a little look 1116 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:23,680 you know little shuttlecraft 1117 00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:26,770 down of the earth have you ever heard of 1118 00:56:35,010 --> 00:56:32,710 a a p-funk parliament from the 70s yeah 1119 00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:35,020 yeah I'm gonna have to send you one of 1120 00:56:39,390 --> 00:56:37,420 their songs about talking about the 1121 00:56:40,829 --> 00:56:39,400 mothership actually you know I probably 1122 00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:40,839 use that as a bumper music in the next 1123 00:56:48,349 --> 00:56:44,319 the next break coming up so so okay so 1124 00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:48,359 basically you're saying it's not just 1125 00:56:56,700 --> 00:56:53,280 you know one sort of mono tribe of 1126 00:56:57,630 --> 00:56:56,710 extraterrestrials or what are they we 1127 00:56:59,000 --> 00:56:57,640 have a variety of different 1128 00:57:04,319 --> 00:56:59,010 extraterrestrial is using different 1129 00:57:06,809 --> 00:57:04,329 modes of transportation you know so okay 1130 00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:06,819 here we are these these beings on this 1131 00:57:15,170 --> 00:57:11,140 planet we have different you know races 1132 00:57:18,329 --> 00:57:15,180 coming down here from who's where and 1133 00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:18,339 how do they know each other I mean you 1134 00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:19,960 know how do they get here and they war 1135 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:21,430 against each other because it's like 1136 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:23,890 hopes no this is my territory now the 1137 00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:25,990 human oh yeah pretty much yeah pretty 1138 00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:28,630 much I mean if you think about my muse 1139 00:57:35,220 --> 00:57:34,000 Greek cosmology so so leaseholder right 1140 00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:35,230 there we're coming up to the center 1141 00:57:39,390 --> 00:57:37,839 bright yeah and we'll pick it up when we 1142 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:39,400 get back this is Alan B Smith for 1143 00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:40,930 paranormal now on the inception radio 1144 00:57:46,799 --> 00:57:43,599 network and I'm speaking with dr. Rita 1145 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:46,809 Lewis fantastic conversation stay tuned 1146 00:58:00,930 --> 00:57:59,280 and welcome back to the paranormal now 1147 00:58:02,849 --> 00:58:00,940 I'm your host Andy smoke on the 1148 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:02,859 inception radio network my guest tonight 1149 00:58:08,579 --> 00:58:05,770 is dr. Rita Lewis and taking us out of 1150 00:58:11,309 --> 00:58:08,589 the break was we want the funk that 1151 00:58:16,109 --> 00:58:11,319 Parliament alright so we were speaking 1152 00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:16,119 of extraterrestrials ancient aliens as 1153 00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:19,680 it were but after Rita Lewis has a 1154 00:58:24,990 --> 00:58:23,200 different perspective on it and and I do 1155 00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:25,000 appreciate that and where we had left it 1156 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:28,270 off in the break in particular we were 1157 00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:30,490 speaking about some ancient Greek 1158 00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:33,280 mythology so read I don't know if you 1159 00:58:38,490 --> 00:58:34,750 want to pick it up from there and and 1160 00:58:41,069 --> 00:58:38,500 take us away sure you know and so I'm 1161 00:58:43,230 --> 00:58:41,079 going to use the Greek mythology as kind 1162 00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:43,240 of the the narrative because I think 1163 00:58:49,650 --> 00:58:44,950 people are familiar with the names 1164 00:58:51,660 --> 00:58:49,660 involved but the way that the story okay 1165 00:58:54,299 --> 00:58:51,670 so this is me and I will say that this 1166 00:58:57,180 --> 00:58:54,309 is me making an interpretation of the 1167 00:59:01,049 --> 00:58:57,190 story that we find but the original 1168 00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:01,059 progenitor gods that came to I'll save 1169 00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:05,200 this solar system were gods like you're 1170 00:59:11,010 --> 00:59:09,520 honest and Gaia and according to their 1171 00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:11,020 narrative they had a number of children 1172 00:59:17,130 --> 00:59:14,710 of the Titans and the cyclopses and and 1173 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:17,140 this and the herkimer's her I can never 1174 00:59:26,130 --> 00:59:23,650 say that word right and and so you're 1175 00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:26,140 honest was afraid of the Titans and so 1176 00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:29,230 he put them into Tartarus but the 1177 00:59:34,410 --> 00:59:31,359 youngest son Kronos wasn't put in 1178 00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:34,420 Tartarus and so Gaia gave him a ala 1179 00:59:38,940 --> 00:59:36,910 mantium sickle which he used to castrate 1180 00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:38,950 his father well we don't 1181 00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:42,790 so you're honest is tied to that dual 1182 00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:45,910 God type concept all of the progenitor 1183 00:59:51,450 --> 00:59:48,760 gods when you look at early cosmology or 1184 00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:51,460 all that dual hermaphroditic type 1185 00:59:57,390 --> 00:59:54,910 concept Kronos was a fertility guide so 1186 01:00:00,000 --> 00:59:57,400 the iconography tied to for the 1187 01:00:04,190 --> 01:00:00,010 fertility gods are the half man half 1188 01:00:08,010 --> 01:00:04,200 serpent some kind of aquatic 1189 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:08,020 reptilian-type being so 1190 01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:10,090 on us is the one who was considered a 1191 01:00:16,650 --> 01:00:13,680 rebel and escaped it is my belief that 1192 01:00:18,300 --> 01:00:16,660 you're honest and Gaia and the original 1193 01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:18,310 progenitor gods a group of eight 1194 01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:21,040 actually settled on to Mars first or at 1195 01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:24,880 least that's kind of my thought but then 1196 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:26,830 they had the late heavy bombardment that 1197 01:00:32,430 --> 01:00:29,770 occurred about 3.8 billion years ago 1198 01:00:35,310 --> 01:00:32,440 which destroyed the atmosphere so 1199 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:35,320 there's this war that happens Cronus 1200 01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:39,370 escapes any sets up shop on the earth 1201 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:42,040 which started the Golden Age in many 1202 01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:43,570 cultures around the world and everything 1203 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:45,910 was very fertile and and all of this 1204 01:00:54,290 --> 01:00:48,490 great stuff was going on so he's here 1205 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:54,300 hanging around for eons and then we have 1206 01:00:58,890 --> 01:00:55,930 his son 1207 01:01:01,260 --> 01:00:58,900 Zeus through this portrayed in cosmology 1208 01:01:05,310 --> 01:01:01,270 as being Caucasian with long flowing 1209 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:05,320 hair usurp the throne there is the war 1210 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:08,530 between you know Zeus and Titans and 1211 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:12,610 Zeus wins and so and we find this 1212 01:01:18,690 --> 01:01:15,130 consistent story of warring that happens 1213 01:01:20,970 --> 01:01:18,700 you know in Greek the cosmology it talks 1214 01:01:24,030 --> 01:01:20,980 about it was the child but when you look 1215 01:01:25,710 --> 01:01:24,040 at how they're described they it seems 1216 01:01:28,350 --> 01:01:25,720 almost impossible that their children 1217 01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:28,360 could look that way but if you kind of 1218 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:30,670 put a different twist on it and talk 1219 01:01:36,450 --> 01:01:33,730 about different factions of aliens kind 1220 01:01:38,910 --> 01:01:36,460 of like the Federation you know it was 1221 01:01:41,370 --> 01:01:38,920 it had the Ferengi in charge at one 1222 01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:41,380 point in time and now the Klingons are 1223 01:01:46,410 --> 01:01:43,750 in charge now the Federation came in and 1224 01:01:48,990 --> 01:01:46,420 took control of this planet it kind of 1225 01:01:50,670 --> 01:01:49,000 makes more sense and and one of the 1226 01:01:53,070 --> 01:01:50,680 things that you were mentioning a little 1227 01:01:56,850 --> 01:01:53,080 bit earlier about you know Ares being 1228 01:01:59,220 --> 01:01:56,860 kind of tied to the devil and the and 1229 01:02:01,680 --> 01:01:59,230 the war between him but what's 1230 01:02:04,830 --> 01:02:01,690 interesting is that using Zeus again 1231 01:02:07,790 --> 01:02:04,840 Zeus was a sky God his home where heaven 1232 01:02:11,550 --> 01:02:07,800 is is in the sky 1233 01:02:16,530 --> 01:02:11,560 Kronos was a fertility God and his home 1234 01:02:18,630 --> 01:02:16,540 was in the water and so or in the earth 1235 01:02:19,470 --> 01:02:18,640 you know down there I like to say it 1236 01:02:22,830 --> 01:02:19,480 that way it was 1237 01:02:24,990 --> 01:02:22,840 down there you know and he was kind of 1238 01:02:28,590 --> 01:02:25,000 serpent-like and so when we look 1239 01:02:31,170 --> 01:02:28,600 contemporary Christianity or a brahmic 1240 01:02:35,390 --> 01:02:31,180 traditions we have this war between God 1241 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:35,400 and Lucifer where God is up there and 1242 01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:38,290 Lucifer who is evil is down there 1243 01:02:46,830 --> 01:02:41,590 because he lost the war so you know they 1244 01:02:49,650 --> 01:02:46,840 have to vfi him I don't know just seems 1245 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:49,660 like too much of a parallel to me it is 1246 01:02:54,420 --> 01:02:50,770 quite the parallel and if you're just 1247 01:02:56,190 --> 01:02:54,430 tuning in we're talking to dr. Rita 1248 01:02:59,070 --> 01:02:56,200 Lewis as she is a best-selling author 1249 01:03:00,859 --> 01:02:59,080 and the host of just energy radio and 1250 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:00,869 the founder of the Institute of Applied 1251 01:03:10,070 --> 01:03:04,690 energetics if I can just skew offer for 1252 01:03:16,530 --> 01:03:10,080 just a moment where does your sense of 1253 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:16,540 energy and the root energy that is a 1254 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:19,330 part of healing where does that connect 1255 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:23,170 to these godlike beings are they tapping 1256 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:26,050 into some sort of field of energy do 1257 01:03:32,340 --> 01:03:29,650 they are they just more advanced than us 1258 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:32,350 because they can tap into something else 1259 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:39,490 that we just can't yet good question 1260 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:42,850 when you read the mythological record it 1261 01:03:51,210 --> 01:03:46,210 doesn't really claim that they had any 1262 01:03:54,030 --> 01:03:51,220 kind of supernatural abilities short of 1263 01:03:56,220 --> 01:03:54,040 perhaps shape-shifting but not all of 1264 01:03:59,099 --> 01:03:56,230 the gods could shape-shift that was more 1265 01:04:01,940 --> 01:03:59,109 tied to the fertility gods or the 1266 01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:01,950 trickster gods which are fertility gods 1267 01:04:08,550 --> 01:04:03,910 which might have been just a 1268 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:08,560 characteristic of their raced I don't 1269 01:04:13,020 --> 01:04:10,810 know but when you look at the stories 1270 01:04:14,580 --> 01:04:13,030 and say they had technology you know 1271 01:04:19,830 --> 01:04:14,590 they had these ships that they flew 1272 01:04:24,270 --> 01:04:19,840 around in and they had so in Celtic 1273 01:04:27,870 --> 01:04:24,280 mythology it talks about Freya and she 1274 01:04:30,570 --> 01:04:27,880 had a ring that she would put on and it 1275 01:04:32,820 --> 01:04:30,580 or no not a ring she had a cloak of 1276 01:04:34,590 --> 01:04:32,830 feathers that she would put on and 1277 01:04:37,290 --> 01:04:34,600 allowed her to soar through the skies 1278 01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:37,300 and you find a similar storyline in the 1279 01:04:43,020 --> 01:04:40,480 sought the Swan maiden legends where 1280 01:04:45,540 --> 01:04:43,030 there were the Swan maidens that lived 1281 01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:45,550 in the sky and they would come down to 1282 01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:48,910 the earth and bathe and so one day this 1283 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:52,000 guy sees them bathing in the lake and 1284 01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:54,490 steals one of the cloaks from the sky 1285 01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:56,890 Swan maiden she's no longer able to 1286 01:05:01,530 --> 01:04:59,530 return to her home in the sky and so she 1287 01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:01,540 lives with him for years and has 1288 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:04,390 children and then one day she finds out 1289 01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:07,450 where he hid her cloak puts it back on 1290 01:05:12,690 --> 01:05:10,540 and returns to the sky hmm 1291 01:05:15,570 --> 01:05:12,700 yeah so we've you know so it's not about 1292 01:05:16,910 --> 01:05:15,580 they necessarily had these special 1293 01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:16,920 skills 1294 01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:18,700 it's just that they had better 1295 01:05:28,830 --> 01:05:23,920 technology and you know I understand the 1296 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:28,840 the metaphor for the you know the Star 1297 01:05:32,220 --> 01:05:30,850 Trek metaphor whereas you know there's 1298 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:32,230 the prime directive and you don't 1299 01:05:38,550 --> 01:05:33,850 interfere and that's why we don't see 1300 01:05:43,830 --> 01:05:38,560 them but if that were true now why 1301 01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:43,840 wasn't it true in the past well you know 1302 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:45,369 it's interesting that's a great question 1303 01:05:50,660 --> 01:05:47,770 that's a great question but I think that 1304 01:05:54,060 --> 01:05:50,670 that was one of the points of contention 1305 01:05:57,359 --> 01:05:54,070 if you start paying attempt to the 1306 01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:57,369 stories what you find is that it is that 1307 01:06:03,450 --> 01:06:00,160 group you know so I have four different 1308 01:06:07,890 --> 01:06:03,460 groups well there's the all-father who 1309 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:07,900 you don't really see there is the Zygons 1310 01:06:11,970 --> 01:06:09,910 there's the fertility gods who are 1311 01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:11,980 associated with water there is the god 1312 01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:13,990 of the underworld who's associated with 1313 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:17,440 Tartarus or hell or but deep within the 1314 01:06:23,970 --> 01:06:21,690 earth and then there is a group that is 1315 01:06:25,980 --> 01:06:23,980 they have multiple descriptions 1316 01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:25,990 sometimes they're called the Giants 1317 01:06:30,750 --> 01:06:27,820 sometimes they're called Dwarfs so you 1318 01:06:33,870 --> 01:06:30,760 know but they are the gods who developed 1319 01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:33,880 the technology okay and and in some 1320 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:35,440 cultures they're not even considered 1321 01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:36,670 gods it's 1322 01:06:42,450 --> 01:06:39,670 we have these four groups and so if you 1323 01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:42,460 look at mythology it seems like the 1324 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:45,910 character or characters who are tied to 1325 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:49,359 that fertility group who were the ones 1326 01:06:56,490 --> 01:06:53,890 that actually engineered humanity were 1327 01:06:59,519 --> 01:06:56,500 the ones that supported humanity they're 1328 01:07:02,370 --> 01:06:59,529 the ones that gave us information I mean 1329 01:07:06,930 --> 01:07:02,380 if you recall in the Sumerian story it 1330 01:07:08,910 --> 01:07:06,940 was Anke who warned zan turis that the 1331 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:08,920 flood was coming and told him to build a 1332 01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:11,650 boat read read wall read wall listen to 1333 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:14,559 what I have to say so he didn't really 1334 01:07:17,789 --> 01:07:16,450 talk to him directly but he got the 1335 01:07:24,049 --> 01:07:17,799 message 1336 01:07:29,099 --> 01:07:24,059 and so that God the God like Enki won 1337 01:07:32,789 --> 01:07:29,109 against the wish of the Council of gods 1338 01:07:33,660 --> 01:07:32,799 or the sky god and so was always given 1339 01:07:36,950 --> 01:07:33,670 like this but you know they were 1340 01:07:40,980 --> 01:07:36,960 identified as being tricksters or 1341 01:07:43,890 --> 01:07:40,990 somehow bad you know which gives them 1342 01:07:47,970 --> 01:07:43,900 that bad representation in many cultures 1343 01:07:51,870 --> 01:07:47,980 today and I'm not sure I answer the 1344 01:07:55,259 --> 01:07:51,880 question but what kind of but not oh you 1345 01:07:58,529 --> 01:07:55,269 did I mean it I can understand there'd 1346 01:08:00,620 --> 01:07:58,539 be a contradiction of opinions if you 1347 01:08:02,730 --> 01:08:00,630 have you know totally different cultures 1348 01:08:06,749 --> 01:08:02,740 coming to this earth and trying to 1349 01:08:10,529 --> 01:08:06,759 decide how to manage dealing with this 1350 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:10,539 planet and the people on it I jerk 1351 01:08:15,299 --> 01:08:11,890 uestion was about the prime directive 1352 01:08:19,579 --> 01:08:15,309 it's right fertility gods didn't really 1353 01:08:23,490 --> 01:08:19,589 follow it but what it feels like is that 1354 01:08:26,430 --> 01:08:23,500 well if you're David Icke they had an 1355 01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:26,440 agenda okay which I'm still working on 1356 01:08:34,260 --> 01:08:30,880 that one but it's you're working on like 1357 01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:34,270 what you Gentiles huh you're working on 1358 01:08:37,379 --> 01:08:36,130 what the agenda is is what you're 1359 01:08:39,329 --> 01:08:37,389 inferring yeah I mean that's a big 1360 01:08:41,999 --> 01:08:39,339 question that's the big question you 1361 01:08:43,979 --> 01:08:42,009 know were they here to teach humanity 1362 01:08:46,559 --> 01:08:43,989 and support the development of humanity 1363 01:08:49,289 --> 01:08:46,569 so that they can suck the energy off of 1364 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:49,299 us and suck the fear off of us 1365 01:08:54,620 --> 01:08:50,770 which is kind of what David Icke 1366 01:08:57,809 --> 01:08:54,630 suggests you know or were there reasons 1367 01:08:59,820 --> 01:08:57,819 for their other reasons but it does seem 1368 01:09:02,400 --> 01:08:59,830 like this group of fertility gods are 1369 01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:02,410 the ones that gave humanity and 1370 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:06,490 education and helped us to develop which 1371 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:08,770 was against apparently well I mean you 1372 01:09:14,150 --> 01:09:11,650 think of you know in the Book of Enoch 1373 01:09:17,010 --> 01:09:14,160 you know it talks about the sons of God 1374 01:09:19,190 --> 01:09:17,020 teaching you know women about perfumes 1375 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:19,200 and makeup and teaching them about 1376 01:09:22,980 --> 01:09:21,250 metallurgy and that was the cause of the 1377 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:22,990 fall of the flood you know because of 1378 01:09:29,099 --> 01:09:27,130 the defilement that they imposed against 1379 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:29,109 humanity you know like we weren't 1380 01:09:33,809 --> 01:09:31,330 supposed to learn anything but they 1381 01:09:40,410 --> 01:09:33,819 taught it to us and that was their big 1382 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:40,420 sin that was their sin and then they got 1383 01:09:46,230 --> 01:09:41,170 passed down to us 1384 01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:46,240 apparently punishment for sin against 1385 01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:49,630 the gods mm-hmm that's pretty standard 1386 01:09:57,450 --> 01:09:51,490 fare wherever you look on the planet 1387 01:10:00,150 --> 01:09:57,460 divine retribution right so now that we 1388 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:00,160 are finally catching up as far as 1389 01:10:05,550 --> 01:10:03,210 technology I mean I could only imagine I 1390 01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:05,560 don't know where maybe a few hundred 1391 01:10:10,590 --> 01:10:07,000 years away maybe maybe a hundred years 1392 01:10:15,210 --> 01:10:10,600 away be by the time we're able to be 1393 01:10:18,030 --> 01:10:15,220 really spacefaring people you know the 1394 01:10:21,630 --> 01:10:18,040 very fact that NASA has a small research 1395 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:21,640 division looking into warp-drive you 1396 01:10:25,170 --> 01:10:23,650 know even though they they kind of play 1397 01:10:27,210 --> 01:10:25,180 it down they're still they're still 1398 01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:27,220 funding it so that tells you something 1399 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:30,880 and and I think with the way the faster 1400 01:10:34,050 --> 01:10:32,410 and faster we learn about the physics of 1401 01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:34,060 this universe the closer and closer 1402 01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:36,640 looks that we two will be able to go out 1403 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:39,520 there and explore other planets and so 1404 01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:41,770 what happens then you know what happens 1405 01:10:47,790 --> 01:10:45,310 in 175 years from now you know when we 1406 01:10:51,780 --> 01:10:47,800 go out there and it's like okay game on 1407 01:10:54,810 --> 01:10:51,790 do they step in do they quarantine us in 1408 01:10:57,390 --> 01:10:54,820 the solar system now you know will we 1409 01:11:00,840 --> 01:10:57,400 finally all just see them for who they 1410 01:11:02,250 --> 01:11:00,850 are I mean I don't know but it you know 1411 01:11:05,609 --> 01:11:02,260 if you restore 1412 01:11:09,029 --> 01:11:05,619 Ricky you know once humanity developed 1413 01:11:11,939 --> 01:11:09,039 warp capabilities they were you know 1414 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:11,949 that's when the the Vulcans landed on 1415 01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:14,650 the earth they came down and and they 1416 01:11:19,529 --> 01:11:16,420 came down and today we're here you know 1417 01:11:22,879 --> 01:11:19,539 but that was kind of like the line you 1418 01:11:25,259 --> 01:11:22,889 know they had to have warp capability 1419 01:11:27,509 --> 01:11:25,269 but if he but if you think in other 1420 01:11:30,509 --> 01:11:27,519 areas I mean think about the area of 1421 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:30,519 genetic research I mean I remember 1422 01:11:35,339 --> 01:11:32,530 seeing this article actually a number of 1423 01:11:38,430 --> 01:11:35,349 years ago about Frankenfish I love it 1424 01:11:42,299 --> 01:11:38,440 Frankenfish it was a salmon that was 1425 01:11:45,359 --> 01:11:42,309 cloned with an eel and I don't remember 1426 01:11:47,879 --> 01:11:45,369 what the what the properties were that 1427 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:47,889 why they did it but there are so many 1428 01:11:56,879 --> 01:11:52,090 things that we're mixing stuff together 1429 01:11:58,830 --> 01:11:56,889 in order to have a better result now we 1430 01:12:01,680 --> 01:11:58,840 don't really know what the implications 1431 01:12:03,810 --> 01:12:01,690 are of taking an eel and a salmon but if 1432 01:12:08,279 --> 01:12:03,820 it gets more eel characteristics and it 1433 01:12:11,009 --> 01:12:08,289 becomes violent we don't know no but but 1434 01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:11,019 we're developing the technology you know 1435 01:12:16,529 --> 01:12:14,110 in that one area where if we went to 1436 01:12:19,740 --> 01:12:16,539 another planet and we wanted to develop 1437 01:12:22,890 --> 01:12:19,750 a species there we would have the 1438 01:12:24,750 --> 01:12:22,900 technology to do that yeah I believe 1439 01:12:26,819 --> 01:12:24,760 that I'm sure you're familiar with the 1440 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:26,829 news that come out in the past year I'm 1441 01:12:32,839 --> 01:12:30,010 about could the CRISPR technology where 1442 01:12:37,259 --> 01:12:32,849 they can literally go in now and and 1443 01:12:39,839 --> 01:12:37,269 manipulate genes you know in real time 1444 01:12:42,779 --> 01:12:39,849 so I don't think we're that far away 1445 01:12:45,029 --> 01:12:42,789 before our astronauts can be genetically 1446 01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:45,039 manipulated not not genetically grown 1447 01:12:49,859 --> 01:12:47,590 but just a regular human being who's now 1448 01:12:52,290 --> 01:12:49,869 in their you know whatever 20s 30s ready 1449 01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:52,300 to go out to space and just say okay 1450 01:12:56,609 --> 01:12:53,679 we're going to do some modifications 1451 01:13:01,370 --> 01:12:56,619 here so that you are better equipped to 1452 01:13:04,109 --> 01:13:01,380 handle long-term space travel yeah yeah 1453 01:13:05,669 --> 01:13:04,119 yeah yeah and then and then of course it 1454 01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:05,679 leads down that route of what you know 1455 01:13:14,820 --> 01:13:12,330 so from from a human I have to tell you 1456 01:13:18,030 --> 01:13:14,830 it's like I love Star Trek because it 1457 01:13:20,220 --> 01:13:18,040 gives you so many great examples that 1458 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:20,230 you can throw into this what-if scenario 1459 01:13:25,620 --> 01:13:22,650 you know then you have someone like Khan 1460 01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:25,630 who was genetically engineered but now 1461 01:13:30,300 --> 01:13:28,630 he has no purpose and they put him and 1462 01:13:32,970 --> 01:13:30,310 his people on a ship and send him off 1463 01:13:35,580 --> 01:13:32,980 into space and deep freeze because he 1464 01:13:37,830 --> 01:13:35,590 has no place on the earth anymore you 1465 01:13:39,570 --> 01:13:37,840 know oh so what word is that it gonna be 1466 01:13:42,930 --> 01:13:39,580 Artemis what we do with our mistakes 1467 01:13:46,350 --> 01:13:42,940 just send them off get rid of them well 1468 01:13:49,020 --> 01:13:46,360 I love I love that storyline and you 1469 01:13:51,810 --> 01:13:49,030 know nostalgic Lee I really do love the 1470 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:51,820 the original episode and and the movie 1471 01:14:00,330 --> 01:13:55,810 Star Trek - but ivory watched the movie 1472 01:14:01,860 --> 01:14:00,340 now just recently because it's Star Trek 1473 01:14:07,470 --> 01:14:01,870 - is supposed to be one of the best 1474 01:14:09,810 --> 01:14:07,480 sci-fi films of all time and yeah I 1475 01:14:13,070 --> 01:14:09,820 didn't I don't agree with that yeah I 1476 01:14:15,090 --> 01:14:13,080 don't like it for its time it was good 1477 01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:15,100 but it didn't yeah I don't think it 1478 01:14:19,230 --> 01:14:17,920 holds up you know what do you what do 1479 01:14:21,420 --> 01:14:19,240 you think about the new the new Star 1480 01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:21,430 Trek films I mean because what made the 1481 01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:24,430 original Star Trek and generations Deep 1482 01:14:30,270 --> 01:14:26,710 Space nine all those iterations of Star 1483 01:14:33,710 --> 01:14:30,280 Trek great where the real conscious 1484 01:14:36,750 --> 01:14:33,720 effort to introduce philosophy into 1485 01:14:38,940 --> 01:14:36,760 every aspect of life especially a 1486 01:14:43,020 --> 01:14:38,950 science and exploration but psychology 1487 01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:43,030 spirituality politics do you feel like 1488 01:14:48,570 --> 01:14:46,110 the new iterations the Star Trek movies 1489 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:48,580 carry that torch well enough or do you 1490 01:14:52,530 --> 01:14:49,810 think that they're just more 1491 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:52,540 action-packed oh I definitely think 1492 01:14:57,780 --> 01:14:54,010 they're more action-packed 1493 01:15:00,810 --> 01:14:57,790 you know with good special effects and 1494 01:15:03,210 --> 01:15:00,820 you know an OK storyline mm-hm 1495 01:15:05,820 --> 01:15:03,220 you know I think Gene Roddenberry would 1496 01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:05,830 be a little disappointed I don't think 1497 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:07,840 he would turn over in his grave but I 1498 01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:09,610 think he would be a little disappointed 1499 01:15:16,890 --> 01:15:12,310 that that message of hope and a bright 1500 01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:16,900 future and advancing technology I mean 1501 01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:19,369 you know it's interesting because 1502 01:15:28,569 --> 01:15:22,249 we are still looking to achieve the 1503 01:15:31,449 --> 01:15:28,579 things that Star Trek showed us you know 1504 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:31,459 but now we have cell phones little flip 1505 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:34,010 phones kind of like they had I mean you 1506 01:15:38,739 --> 01:15:36,050 know we're so there are so many things 1507 01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:38,749 that come out of science that you know 1508 01:15:45,069 --> 01:15:42,159 the words were made up for Star Trek 1509 01:15:48,819 --> 01:15:45,079 that way you know time-space continuum 1510 01:15:50,919 --> 01:15:48,829 and you know I mean I have tons of Star 1511 01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:50,929 Trek examples because people can wrap 1512 01:15:54,129 --> 01:15:52,249 their mind around it because they've 1513 01:15:57,819 --> 01:15:54,139 seen all the episodes at least 20 times 1514 01:15:59,649 --> 01:15:57,829 you know I I'm glad that it's other 1515 01:16:01,929 --> 01:15:59,659 people have been introduced into the 1516 01:16:04,029 --> 01:16:01,939 Star Trek lexicon that you know perhaps 1517 01:16:07,689 --> 01:16:04,039 would not have been and that whole 1518 01:16:11,399 --> 01:16:07,699 universe but you know there's something 1519 01:16:14,979 --> 01:16:11,409 to be said about using intelligence 1520 01:16:16,569 --> 01:16:14,989 smart people with different strengths 1521 01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:16,579 and attributes working together of 1522 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:18,800 course there was always the action 1523 01:16:21,849 --> 01:16:20,449 element to Star Trek you know that was 1524 01:16:25,149 --> 01:16:21,859 part of the entertainment the fun of it 1525 01:16:26,589 --> 01:16:25,159 as well um but it was people bringing 1526 01:16:27,939 --> 01:16:26,599 them putting their minds together smart 1527 01:16:31,209 --> 01:16:27,949 people coming up with really clever 1528 01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:31,219 ideas to find themselves find a way out 1529 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:36,169 of really tricky situations and you know 1530 01:16:47,229 --> 01:16:39,530 I think that humanity is going to be 1531 01:16:51,069 --> 01:16:47,239 really forced to do so if if we are 1532 01:16:53,229 --> 01:16:51,079 encountered with you know our version of 1533 01:16:56,349 --> 01:16:53,239 the Vulcans coming down and saying okay 1534 01:16:59,199 --> 01:16:56,359 guys you need to we need to really talk 1535 01:17:00,639 --> 01:16:59,209 here and work it out I think that I 1536 01:17:03,879 --> 01:17:00,649 don't think that we're gonna have war 1537 01:17:06,969 --> 01:17:03,889 you know or the world's radio broadcast 1538 01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:06,979 suicides there might be but I don't 1539 01:17:11,949 --> 01:17:09,289 think it's gonna be some crazy mess you 1540 01:17:14,020 --> 01:17:11,959 know attempt to for people to end their 1541 01:17:17,709 --> 01:17:14,030 lives because of you know aliens coming 1542 01:17:19,029 --> 01:17:17,719 down to earth but if that happens you 1543 01:17:20,829 --> 01:17:19,039 know we're gonna we're Nev we're going 1544 01:17:23,339 --> 01:17:20,839 to need really smart people and creative 1545 01:17:25,809 --> 01:17:23,349 thinkers to get through that transition 1546 01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:25,819 right we can't just have you know throw 1547 01:17:31,580 --> 01:17:28,290 fists first and think later 1548 01:17:33,650 --> 01:17:31,590 oh I agree I don't totally agree you 1549 01:17:35,780 --> 01:17:33,660 know one thing that I've always made to 1550 01:17:39,140 --> 01:17:35,790 comment about you know cuz if a ship 1551 01:17:41,230 --> 01:17:39,150 came and landed somewhere you know most 1552 01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:41,240 war world governments would want to send 1553 01:17:48,620 --> 01:17:45,450 the President or somebody like that you 1554 01:17:53,210 --> 01:17:48,630 know to go do this interaction and I'm 1555 01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:53,220 just like you know maybe send the Dalai 1556 01:18:00,890 --> 01:17:57,450 Lama you know he'd be cool yeah you know 1557 01:18:03,170 --> 01:18:00,900 maybe Jimmy Carter he'd be kind of 1558 01:18:04,910 --> 01:18:03,180 mellow you know someone that's you know 1559 01:18:07,340 --> 01:18:04,920 and then if they get blown up you know 1560 01:18:09,140 --> 01:18:07,350 which is awful to say you know okay then 1561 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:09,150 maybe send a stronger hand in there 1562 01:18:13,630 --> 01:18:11,010 someone who's gonna sit there and talk 1563 01:18:15,790 --> 01:18:13,640 to these people and find common ground 1564 01:18:19,190 --> 01:18:15,800 right someone who doesn't have ulterior 1565 01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:19,200 motives you know they have a clear 1566 01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:22,560 motive that is recognized you know and 1567 01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:24,840 they they reflect and meditate and think 1568 01:18:29,780 --> 01:18:27,450 on these things carefully I think you 1569 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:29,790 would have to be careful you can't just 1570 01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:31,650 go throw caution to the wind should 1571 01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:35,520 should that day come or go in with the 1572 01:18:41,870 --> 01:18:39,210 attitude that they're here to hurt us I 1573 01:18:43,970 --> 01:18:41,880 mean if they were here to hurt us then 1574 01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:43,980 they would just hurt us you know they 1575 01:18:48,020 --> 01:18:46,710 wouldn't come in land you know and you 1576 01:18:50,510 --> 01:18:48,030 made the comment about you don't think 1577 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:50,520 people would commit suicide or do 1578 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:51,930 anything like that you know like in the 1579 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:54,810 30s and I think that our society has 1580 01:19:01,120 --> 01:18:57,330 been very acculturated I think that's 1581 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:01,130 the right word to the notion of 1582 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:04,290 extraterrestrials and UFOs and even 1583 01:19:08,750 --> 01:19:06,090 though it might kind of freak people out 1584 01:19:12,410 --> 01:19:08,760 a little bit I don't think there would 1585 01:19:18,700 --> 01:19:12,420 be bedlam because we've all seen movies 1586 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:18,710 and TV shows and it's part of the mass 1587 01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:22,050 culture now you know it's it's part of 1588 01:19:29,060 --> 01:19:26,400 our heritage now well I think you 1589 01:19:32,270 --> 01:19:29,070 wouldn't really be shocked if you were 1590 01:19:34,910 --> 01:19:32,280 chosen to be the ambassador what would 1591 01:19:44,210 --> 01:19:34,920 be the first thing you would say do 1592 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:44,220 these you know actually that might be 1593 01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:45,810 the best thing just you know what come 1594 01:19:48,890 --> 01:19:47,580 on let's just chill out and sit down and 1595 01:19:51,410 --> 01:19:48,900 we'll see where the conversation takes 1596 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:51,420 us no butts but seriously where you know 1597 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:53,730 if you if you were the the person did to 1598 01:19:56,660 --> 01:19:54,930 make that first contact 1599 01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:56,670 you know what would your first paragraph 1600 01:20:02,480 --> 01:19:58,800 be into that to that person how would 1601 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:02,490 your rap be oh god man I would have to 1602 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:05,730 like meditate on that for weeks or at 1603 01:20:13,940 --> 01:20:07,770 least a little bit you know not like 1604 01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:13,950 right now no I mean I think I would like 1605 01:20:20,750 --> 01:20:16,560 kind of go with the whole chill idea you 1606 01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:20,760 know you know when we you sit there and 1607 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:24,000 you look at contemporary you f ology 1608 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:26,130 especially the experiencers the people 1609 01:20:30,890 --> 01:20:28,050 that have experienced some kind of 1610 01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:30,900 abduction scenario you know they talk 1611 01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:33,360 about how these extraterrestrials 1612 01:20:40,670 --> 01:20:37,260 communicate telepathically and and I 1613 01:20:43,970 --> 01:20:40,680 think if you go in there with bad mojo 1614 01:20:45,950 --> 01:20:43,980 you know with your bad energy thinking 1615 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:45,960 well I'm gonna have to get rid of these 1616 01:20:51,620 --> 01:20:48,570 people or just you know what I mean with 1617 01:20:54,410 --> 01:20:51,630 bad energy versus you go in there with 1618 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:54,420 good energy they're going to receive 1619 01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:55,650 that they're gonna receive that 1620 01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:57,840 telepathically that you're not there to 1621 01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:00,000 hurt them you're not there to create 1622 01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:03,120 harm and so they'll receive you as 1623 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:06,450 opposed to resist you you know so maybe 1624 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:08,370 it's really not something that you talk 1625 01:21:12,850 --> 01:21:10,410 about maybe it's something that it's 1626 01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:12,860 more of a feeling exchange 1627 01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:17,820 mmm that happens right right 1628 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:22,800 something that would imply that whatever 1629 01:21:28,250 --> 01:21:25,050 you know my guess would be honestly if 1630 01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:28,260 you know if we were being watched for 1631 01:21:34,820 --> 01:21:32,400 for quite a long time you know maybe not 1632 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:34,830 ever you know all of these species or 1633 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:36,570 everyone in these species speaks English 1634 01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:37,610 but my guess would be there would be 1635 01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:39,900 someone who understands it you know 1636 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:42,560 their version of an ambassador 1637 01:21:48,500 --> 01:21:46,050 interpreter and not just English but 1638 01:21:50,060 --> 01:21:48,510 probably every other language because 1639 01:21:55,729 --> 01:21:50,070 they've had thousands of years right 1640 01:21:57,530 --> 01:21:55,739 I mean to study us yeah and you know 1641 01:21:59,120 --> 01:21:57,540 it's got to be frustrating from them if 1642 01:22:03,760 --> 01:21:59,130 they if they know our history but then 1643 01:22:06,620 --> 01:22:03,770 we do and that I think would be a 1644 01:22:09,050 --> 01:22:06,630 mind-blowing revelation to find out what 1645 01:22:10,689 --> 01:22:09,060 they know about us you know were it true 1646 01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:10,699 that they've been around for you know 1647 01:22:16,459 --> 01:22:13,679 70,000 years who knows if they've been 1648 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:16,469 keeping records in track of us we might 1649 01:22:21,950 --> 01:22:18,690 just get our minds blown of what our 1650 01:22:24,649 --> 01:22:21,960 real history is oh I agree 1651 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:24,659 mm-hmm well one of the things that I 1652 01:22:29,899 --> 01:22:27,690 point out in my ET chronicles book which 1653 01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:29,909 I actually talked about a little bit a 1654 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:31,710 little bit more depth in my new book 1655 01:22:38,899 --> 01:22:33,690 which the working title is called being 1656 01:22:43,220 --> 01:22:38,909 human is just the notion of the mythic 1657 01:22:46,069 --> 01:22:43,230 narrative based on the point of view of 1658 01:22:50,830 --> 01:22:46,079 the writer we find two very different 1659 01:22:53,899 --> 01:22:50,840 focus points there are stories that are 1660 01:22:55,939 --> 01:22:53,909 from the flood okay so I'm gonna use 1661 01:22:59,149 --> 01:22:55,949 biblical so from the beginning to the 1662 01:23:01,640 --> 01:22:59,159 flood and then once we pass the flood 1663 01:23:04,879 --> 01:23:01,650 and you know kind of like the story of 1664 01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:04,889 the the Tower of Babel where we all have 1665 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:07,440 our own different languages once you 1666 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:11,210 passed that point in time you move into 1667 01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:14,130 stories all right so the early ones are 1668 01:23:21,379 --> 01:23:17,520 the gods talking about the gods okay and 1669 01:23:23,629 --> 01:23:21,389 so you know Kronos casts traits you're 1670 01:23:26,229 --> 01:23:23,639 honest it's okay you know there's no 1671 01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:26,239 hard there's no shock it's kind of like 1672 01:23:32,689 --> 01:23:30,449 we were there and we were watching you 1673 01:23:34,609 --> 01:23:32,699 know some kind of fight going on between 1674 01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:34,619 our friends down the street you know 1675 01:23:38,209 --> 01:23:36,480 we're just like rooting on you know 1676 01:23:41,209 --> 01:23:38,219 we're there they were part of the action 1677 01:23:44,979 --> 01:23:41,219 they were part of the story but when you 1678 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:44,989 past that point the flood and the 1679 01:23:51,140 --> 01:23:48,449 development of culture as we know it the 1680 01:23:54,290 --> 01:23:51,150 stories change and it's no longer the 1681 01:23:57,109 --> 01:23:54,300 stories of the Gods about the gods it's 1682 01:24:00,350 --> 01:23:57,119 the story of humanity and our 1683 01:24:01,370 --> 01:24:00,360 interaction one with each other and our 1684 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:01,380 interaction 1685 01:24:06,140 --> 01:24:04,050 with the gods you know where we're 1686 01:24:09,770 --> 01:24:06,150 praying to the gods or the gods 1687 01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:09,780 intervene on some level you know my 1688 01:24:13,459 --> 01:24:11,730 favorite Jason in the Argonauts 1689 01:24:15,020 --> 01:24:13,469 my favorite movie let's hold it right 1690 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:15,030 there just on the Argonauts we will pick 1691 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:16,530 it up from there after this last and 1692 01:24:22,959 --> 01:24:18,570 final break I'm speaking to dr. Rita 1693 01:24:26,090 --> 01:24:22,969 Lewis a best-selling author and amazing 1694 01:24:27,770 --> 01:24:26,100 person with a breadth of knowledge hang 1695 01:24:39,679 --> 01:24:27,780 in there we'll be right back 1696 01:24:43,469 --> 01:24:41,910 welcome back to paranormal now this is 1697 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:43,479 Andy Smith your host on the inception 1698 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:45,610 radio network and taking us out of the 1699 01:24:51,629 --> 01:24:48,010 break was route 66 by the Manhattan 1700 01:24:55,649 --> 01:24:51,639 Transfer a dr. riddle Lewis have you 1701 01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:55,659 ever taken route 66 I have been on some 1702 01:25:01,049 --> 01:24:58,570 parts but I haven't done just you know a 1703 01:25:04,890 --> 01:25:01,059 road trip on it but I think that would 1704 01:25:07,919 --> 01:25:04,900 be so cool to do so one day maybe I'll 1705 01:25:10,739 --> 01:25:07,929 put it on my bucket list yeah we you 1706 01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:10,749 know in our multiple road trips out to 1707 01:25:14,459 --> 01:25:12,610 the the Midwest there were a couple 1708 01:25:17,459 --> 01:25:14,469 times we hit 66 and just really 1709 01:25:19,620 --> 01:25:17,469 something romantic about it you know 1710 01:25:21,929 --> 01:25:19,630 owing to the history and also the 1711 01:25:23,819 --> 01:25:21,939 sightings I mean you know the highways 1712 01:25:25,799 --> 01:25:23,829 out there these big long open highways 1713 01:25:28,709 --> 01:25:25,809 particularly 66 because it is no longer 1714 01:25:30,959 --> 01:25:28,719 the main highway you know there the 1715 01:25:32,580 --> 01:25:30,969 lights are low and the skies are big and 1716 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:32,590 bright and you can see quite a bit out 1717 01:25:37,620 --> 01:25:35,530 there have you ever had the chance to go 1718 01:25:41,969 --> 01:25:37,630 on a road trip and you know search the 1719 01:25:46,169 --> 01:25:41,979 sky stars for for UFOs or or just to 1720 01:25:48,660 --> 01:25:46,179 take in the beauty not necessarily on a 1721 01:25:53,129 --> 01:25:48,670 road trip you know but obviously I've 1722 01:25:55,649 --> 01:25:53,139 had experiences of just being out I have 1723 01:25:58,350 --> 01:25:55,659 some ex relatives that lived in on a 1724 01:26:00,089 --> 01:25:58,360 ranch New Mexico we would visit them all 1725 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:00,099 the time and just you know sit out on 1726 01:26:06,060 --> 01:26:02,530 the porch you know and just look at the 1727 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:06,070 Stars and stuff like that very cool 1728 01:26:10,290 --> 01:26:09,489 stuff never seen a UFO oh really all 1729 01:26:12,989 --> 01:26:10,300 right 1730 01:26:16,049 --> 01:26:12,999 that's isn't it no all kinds of other 1731 01:26:17,429 --> 01:26:16,059 weird stuff but no UFO yeah yeah it's 1732 01:26:20,580 --> 01:26:17,439 funny how there's some people who will 1733 01:26:23,009 --> 01:26:20,590 you know you know think on these things 1734 01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:23,019 look towards the skies and never see one 1735 01:26:26,759 --> 01:26:24,249 and then you have someone who has could 1736 01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:26,769 care less you know has a complete 1737 01:26:32,459 --> 01:26:31,030 another close encounter I've seen one 1738 01:26:34,410 --> 01:26:32,469 when I was much younger and you know 1739 01:26:37,020 --> 01:26:34,420 that sort of put me on this this path 1740 01:26:42,209 --> 01:26:37,030 for the rest of my life of being mildly 1741 01:26:44,939 --> 01:26:42,219 obsessed with it but you know I think 1742 01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:44,949 that that's that he makes it more 1743 01:26:50,990 --> 01:26:49,360 interesting from my perspective how you 1744 01:26:54,570 --> 01:26:51,000 have come to 1745 01:26:58,650 --> 01:26:54,580 except that these gods 1746 01:27:02,189 --> 01:26:58,660 aka extraterrestrials exist have come 1747 01:27:05,070 --> 01:27:02,199 more visiting now without having seen a 1748 01:27:07,110 --> 01:27:05,080 UFO yourself because the defense a lot 1749 01:27:08,459 --> 01:27:07,120 of people use when they're you know 1750 01:27:11,070 --> 01:27:08,469 researching these subjects they'll say 1751 01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:11,080 well yeah yeah blah blah history and 1752 01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:13,360 this and that and facts but mmm all that 1753 01:27:17,490 --> 01:27:15,760 aside I saw it with my own eyes so you 1754 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:17,500 can tell me what you want but I know I 1755 01:27:23,070 --> 01:27:20,770 saw it and I know that it's real but in 1756 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:23,080 your case you really are relying on your 1757 01:27:29,220 --> 01:27:25,650 research and the evidence that you drawn 1758 01:27:32,490 --> 01:27:29,230 and there was no way to get around it 1759 01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:32,500 there was just no anyone with common 1760 01:27:38,250 --> 01:27:35,890 sense you you know earlier I was talking 1761 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:38,260 about how researchers you know just say 1762 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:40,810 well we can't really explain it you know 1763 01:27:45,959 --> 01:27:43,810 how we had this miraculous event 1764 01:27:50,459 --> 01:27:45,969 happened in week you know we can't 1765 01:27:53,220 --> 01:27:50,469 explain it but if you get rid of the 1766 01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:53,230 miracles that happened in antiquity and 1767 01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:55,390 put a lien in there it makes a whole lot 1768 01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:57,760 more sense and you read these ancient 1769 01:28:03,150 --> 01:28:01,120 narratives and from it you know today we 1770 01:28:07,740 --> 01:28:03,160 have technology and we can look at these 1771 01:28:09,330 --> 01:28:07,750 stories and recognize the technology 1772 01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:09,340 that they had I mean we might not have 1773 01:28:15,900 --> 01:28:12,880 the technology but we can recognize it 1774 01:28:19,890 --> 01:28:15,910 as technology and so by the time I got 1775 01:28:22,890 --> 01:28:19,900 doing my research there was no way for 1776 01:28:25,950 --> 01:28:22,900 me to get around it other than saying it 1777 01:28:29,729 --> 01:28:25,960 was a miracle it was a miracle it was a 1778 01:28:35,130 --> 01:28:29,739 miracle I'll give another example so 1779 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:35,140 between the time of okay so I have to I 1780 01:28:41,130 --> 01:28:37,330 have to put my little thinking cap on so 1781 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:41,140 we had Australopithecus who were the 1782 01:28:49,020 --> 01:28:46,210 first upright walking hominids who they 1783 01:28:51,510 --> 01:28:49,030 have just recently found yet another 1784 01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:51,520 miracle that they started working 1785 01:28:55,050 --> 01:28:52,719 walking upright Oh 1786 01:28:59,400 --> 01:28:55,060 and they started fashioning stone tools 1787 01:29:02,400 --> 01:28:59,410 to Australopithecus Australopithecus so 1788 01:29:03,090 --> 01:29:02,410 it wasn't even the Homo habilis which 1789 01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:03,100 was the fur 1790 01:29:10,290 --> 01:29:07,690 the homo line to use stone tools but 1791 01:29:13,110 --> 01:29:10,300 what they can't figure out is evolution 1792 01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,120 takes millions of years to occur I mean 1793 01:29:18,030 --> 01:29:15,280 that's what they drum into you well what 1794 01:29:23,340 --> 01:29:18,040 they can't figure out is how in less 1795 01:29:26,490 --> 01:29:23,350 than two million years this huge number 1796 01:29:29,970 --> 01:29:26,500 of changes happened in the hominid 1797 01:29:33,180 --> 01:29:29,980 Lonnie they can't explain it because the 1798 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:33,190 acceleration was so rapid it's like well 1799 01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:35,850 but if you're genetically splicing genes 1800 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:38,320 in which they talked about it in the 1801 01:29:44,460 --> 01:29:42,250 mythic record then maybe it is possible 1802 01:29:47,580 --> 01:29:44,470 to take something that is pretty 1803 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:47,590 ape-like and transform it into something 1804 01:29:56,850 --> 01:29:53,170 that is man-like with culture and so 1805 01:29:59,810 --> 01:29:56,860 something with some intelligence but 1806 01:30:02,660 --> 01:29:59,820 yeah adding to it 1807 01:30:04,740 --> 01:30:02,670 correct Oh correct 1808 01:30:06,690 --> 01:30:04,750 you know but if you think about it 1809 01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:06,700 chimpanzees have intelligence you know 1810 01:30:11,970 --> 01:30:08,560 we have Todd Apes had to sign language 1811 01:30:16,290 --> 01:30:11,980 and one of the things that the Stone Age 1812 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:16,300 Research Center they have taught a 1813 01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:18,250 couple of apes to actually had him to 1814 01:30:23,220 --> 01:30:21,970 make stone tools took up ten years but 1815 01:30:26,250 --> 01:30:23,230 they taught him how to make stone tools 1816 01:30:29,460 --> 01:30:26,260 and this is my favorite there's this one 1817 01:30:32,910 --> 01:30:29,470 Abe called Lewis who learned how to make 1818 01:30:35,130 --> 01:30:32,920 fires and so he would take sticks and he 1819 01:30:37,530 --> 01:30:35,140 would pile him up and now granted that 1820 01:30:39,810 --> 01:30:37,540 they gave him lighter but he still had 1821 01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:39,820 to get the sticks and pile them up in a 1822 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:42,490 certain way and with his lighter wood 1823 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:45,010 light these fires and get them burning 1824 01:30:50,130 --> 01:30:46,930 and then he would cook marshmallows over 1825 01:30:52,290 --> 01:30:50,140 a really cooked marshmallows over cooked 1826 01:30:53,910 --> 01:30:52,300 marshmallows yeah I watch the video you 1827 01:30:55,830 --> 01:30:53,920 know it is like cool you make him 1828 01:30:59,940 --> 01:30:55,840 marshmallows I hope they have a good 1829 01:31:02,550 --> 01:30:59,950 dentist for this guy jeez but he was 1830 01:31:05,220 --> 01:31:02,560 taught how to do that you know and so 1831 01:31:07,260 --> 01:31:05,230 one of the things that I contend in this 1832 01:31:09,090 --> 01:31:07,270 book that I'm working on is that you 1833 01:31:11,190 --> 01:31:09,100 know the gods taught us how to do stuff 1834 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:11,200 I mean you breathe you know the gods 1835 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:13,570 gave us agriculture they gave us writing 1836 01:31:18,260 --> 01:31:15,930 they gave us fire they gave 1837 01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:18,270 everything and so if you look at 1838 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:19,920 humanity you know and I said we're 1839 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:23,010 stupid it's because it doesn't say we 1840 01:31:31,340 --> 01:31:26,810 really invented anything until after 1841 01:31:33,980 --> 01:31:31,350 2500 BC mm-hmm and then it was a long 1842 01:31:38,630 --> 01:31:33,990 time from that point time till we really 1843 01:31:41,750 --> 01:31:38,640 made any kind of progress well is the 1844 01:31:46,730 --> 01:31:41,760 most that to me to me that is one of the 1845 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:46,740 most strange on the currencies in 1846 01:31:56,870 --> 01:31:52,530 history because why didn't the the 1847 01:31:59,390 --> 01:31:56,880 period of the Greeks or the Romans or 1848 01:32:01,850 --> 01:31:59,400 the Chinese early on when they you know 1849 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:01,860 we're creating you know fireworks and 1850 01:32:06,410 --> 01:32:04,050 they had these sort of like bursts of 1851 01:32:10,340 --> 01:32:06,420 engineering occur why didn't that happen 1852 01:32:11,630 --> 01:32:10,350 ten thousand years ago fifteen thousand 1853 01:32:13,970 --> 01:32:11,640 years ago twenty thousand years ago 1854 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:13,980 fifty thousand years ago because if if 1855 01:32:20,780 --> 01:32:18,770 we were the same intelligence all along 1856 01:32:23,780 --> 01:32:20,790 why didn't these when we had these 1857 01:32:27,070 --> 01:32:23,790 bursts of of technological advancements 1858 01:32:30,260 --> 01:32:27,080 occur and not and none of them sustained 1859 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:30,270 you know why did it take up until recent 1860 01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:32,970 times to get to the point where you know 1861 01:32:38,690 --> 01:32:35,730 you can't stop technology now you know 1862 01:32:41,330 --> 01:32:38,700 it just it's it's plowing along most of 1863 01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:41,340 its own accord with its own momentum you 1864 01:32:49,250 --> 01:32:44,490 know why why do you think human beings 1865 01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:49,260 were so slow to get to where we are now 1866 01:32:54,290 --> 01:32:51,420 I mean that's there's no intervention 1867 01:32:56,420 --> 01:32:54,300 there is there well I mean and I don't 1868 01:32:59,660 --> 01:32:56,430 have material in front of me but there 1869 01:33:02,090 --> 01:32:59,670 were a number of genetic changes that 1870 01:33:06,290 --> 01:33:02,100 happened in the human lineage that 1871 01:33:08,780 --> 01:33:06,300 started so we became bipedal and then 1872 01:33:11,150 --> 01:33:08,790 the next major change happened to the 1873 01:33:13,700 --> 01:33:11,160 Fox p2 gene and I know this one because 1874 01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:13,710 I've been writing about it which is 1875 01:33:20,300 --> 01:33:17,930 associated with communication primarily 1876 01:33:22,370 --> 01:33:20,310 it's associated with other things but 1877 01:33:24,350 --> 01:33:22,380 that's where the biggest high is and 1878 01:33:26,890 --> 01:33:24,360 it's interesting because they say that 1879 01:33:30,010 --> 01:33:26,900 the change to the Fox p2 gene happen 1880 01:33:32,260 --> 01:33:30,020 twenty two hundred thousand years ago 1881 01:33:34,870 --> 01:33:32,270 and then they turn around and say well 1882 01:33:37,630 --> 01:33:34,880 Neanderthals also had the same version 1883 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:37,640 of the Fox p2 gene so did the Fox p2 1884 01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:41,210 gene develop independently in these tube 1885 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:46,490 you know species or the ancestor to 1886 01:33:54,130 --> 01:33:49,970 these two species have the updated Fox 1887 01:33:59,220 --> 01:33:57,010 you know and then passed it down you 1888 01:34:02,290 --> 01:33:59,230 know but then there were other genes 1889 01:34:04,540 --> 01:34:02,300 changes that happen that increased the 1890 01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:04,550 size of the frontal cortex you know 1891 01:34:10,690 --> 01:34:08,000 there was another dean that coincides 1892 01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:10,700 with the creative explosion you know I 1893 01:34:17,590 --> 01:34:13,010 mean there there there was another gene 1894 01:34:20,860 --> 01:34:17,600 chain the ASP M gene that was modified 1895 01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:20,870 about 5,000 BC or they find the first 1896 01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:24,170 instance of it about 5,000 BC you know 1897 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:25,970 and I they don't really have information 1898 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:28,370 about what it does but I think it's 1899 01:34:35,170 --> 01:34:32,330 pretty convenient that they found the 1900 01:34:38,530 --> 01:34:35,180 spread of it around 5,000 BC would right 1901 01:34:42,010 --> 01:34:38,540 with the advent of civilization so there 1902 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:42,020 is a trackable genetic or scientific 1903 01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:48,010 history to two recent evolution correct 1904 01:34:52,780 --> 01:34:51,410 and technological you know it's 1905 01:34:57,670 --> 01:34:52,790 interesting because I was talking about 1906 01:34:59,740 --> 01:34:57,680 the timeline thing and so I look for 1907 01:35:02,230 --> 01:34:59,750 these bumps you know so there was a bump 1908 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:02,240 about I don't have to think here's 1909 01:35:06,370 --> 01:35:04,330 together so it was with like 1910 01:35:08,350 --> 01:35:06,380 Australopithecus they became upright 1911 01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:08,360 their first tool users so that's our 1912 01:35:14,830 --> 01:35:12,290 first marker but then about three 1913 01:35:17,170 --> 01:35:14,840 hundred thousand years ago we started 1914 01:35:20,410 --> 01:35:17,180 using ochre you know whether they're 1915 01:35:22,290 --> 01:35:20,420 using it for paint or whatnot not really 1916 01:35:24,580 --> 01:35:22,300 sure but there were some other technical 1917 01:35:29,050 --> 01:35:24,590 technological advances it's we found the 1918 01:35:33,730 --> 01:35:29,060 first piece of itching so they think 1919 01:35:35,530 --> 01:35:33,740 it's like the very first piece of art so 1920 01:35:37,390 --> 01:35:35,540 then they're and then there's really 1921 01:35:39,670 --> 01:35:37,400 kind of not a whole lot going on but 1922 01:35:40,060 --> 01:35:39,680 then a hundred thousand years ago we 1923 01:35:42,939 --> 01:35:40,070 have 1924 01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:42,949 is another huge burst oh the first 1925 01:35:51,669 --> 01:35:47,679 intentional burials 350,000 years ago 1926 01:35:54,069 --> 01:35:51,679 350,000 years ago with the PCs with the 1927 01:35:58,689 --> 01:35:54,079 species that wasn't Homo erectus or 1928 01:36:02,589 --> 01:35:58,699 Neanderthal it wasn't a really recent 1929 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:02,599 it wasn't Denisovan was it no no this 1930 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:07,610 was in Africa and I it was homo means 1931 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:11,530 holy something like that and these were 1932 01:36:21,149 --> 01:36:15,530 primitive but what they found were the 1933 01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:21,159 remains of a number of virtually intact 1934 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:24,800 hominids in the bot in this cave that 1935 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:27,290 they were like you had to trek through 1936 01:36:33,850 --> 01:36:31,610 this thing cavers founded and they what 1937 01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:33,860 they eliminated the possibility that the 1938 01:36:37,330 --> 01:36:35,570 bones were brought in by animals they 1939 01:36:40,510 --> 01:36:37,340 eliminated the possibility that it was 1940 01:36:42,370 --> 01:36:40,520 brought in by wash water because when 1941 01:36:45,729 --> 01:36:42,380 they did the excavation I mean there's a 1942 01:36:48,580 --> 01:36:45,739 picture of a hand you know the hand bone 1943 01:36:50,500 --> 01:36:48,590 and it's in - it's the bones were all in 1944 01:36:55,060 --> 01:36:50,510 the right place you know like as if they 1945 01:36:58,450 --> 01:36:55,070 just removed the skin you know and so 1946 01:37:01,000 --> 01:36:58,460 based on that they're like we think that 1947 01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:01,010 they brought these bodies here and then 1948 01:37:05,649 --> 01:37:03,440 after that like a year or two years 1949 01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:05,659 after that they actually found a second 1950 01:37:12,339 --> 01:37:09,170 cave that also had the bodies of more of 1951 01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:12,349 these creatures moving forward in time 1952 01:37:19,089 --> 01:37:15,679 the next burial that we have record for 1953 01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:19,099 is a hundred thousand years ago which is 1954 01:37:25,959 --> 01:37:23,110 where we have our next bump in cognition 1955 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:25,969 well and also you know I think it's fair 1956 01:37:33,399 --> 01:37:29,530 to say that there's you know graves and 1957 01:37:34,930 --> 01:37:33,409 works that have yet to be uncovered so 1958 01:37:39,089 --> 01:37:34,940 you know a little fine something that's 1959 01:37:41,979 --> 01:37:39,099 200,000 or 175,000 years and so forth 1960 01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:41,989 and so but how do you reconcile that 1961 01:37:51,819 --> 01:37:47,050 with if the idea is that some other 1962 01:37:52,890 --> 01:37:51,829 races manipulated genetically the human 1963 01:37:56,650 --> 01:37:52,900 race 1964 01:37:59,950 --> 01:37:56,660 you know doesn't this variation of 1965 01:38:04,990 --> 01:37:59,960 genetics and evolution and branching off 1966 01:38:06,790 --> 01:38:05,000 of the same you know hominid family sort 1967 01:38:08,860 --> 01:38:06,800 of undermined that a little bit because 1968 01:38:11,140 --> 01:38:08,870 we can see that there's genetic variety 1969 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:11,150 and over different periods of time with 1970 01:38:17,430 --> 01:38:14,690 different races here on this earth so 1971 01:38:20,890 --> 01:38:17,440 you know how do we know at what point 1972 01:38:22,740 --> 01:38:20,900 did some extraterrestrials come down and 1973 01:38:25,450 --> 01:38:22,750 intervene 1974 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:25,460 well my kenshin is that they've been 1975 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:27,410 here all along and they have been 1976 01:38:33,190 --> 01:38:29,810 intervening with the entire history of 1977 01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:33,200 the planet so I wondered I wonder if 1978 01:38:38,610 --> 01:38:34,880 they had a role to play in Neanderthal 1979 01:38:39,820 --> 01:38:38,620 Zoar Denisovans well well what about 1980 01:38:42,460 --> 01:38:39,830 dinosaurs 1981 01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:42,470 what about trolla bites I mean how do we 1982 01:38:50,290 --> 01:38:46,490 go from being sponges and a meat you 1983 01:38:52,990 --> 01:38:50,300 know amoebas and you know little fish 1984 01:38:57,130 --> 01:38:53,000 teeth you know planetary camera image 1985 01:38:59,530 --> 01:38:57,140 things yeah having eyes where did that 1986 01:39:02,710 --> 01:38:59,540 come from you know like oh well you know 1987 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:02,720 they develop proto eyes and you know the 1988 01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:06,050 Sun made them develop come on I mean 1989 01:39:10,330 --> 01:39:07,520 it's like you have to make this whole 1990 01:39:12,730 --> 01:39:10,340 long explanation work they were 1991 01:39:15,370 --> 01:39:12,740 engineered because the way that they 1992 01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:15,380 come on into existence is kind of 1993 01:39:20,830 --> 01:39:18,890 miraculous which they can't explain you 1994 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:20,840 know yes another one of those they can't 1995 01:39:27,910 --> 01:39:25,850 explain things mm-hmm well I mean there 1996 01:39:30,190 --> 01:39:27,920 will always be some some gaps in science 1997 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:30,200 or at least for a very long time for 1998 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:35,530 sure and so are you thinking in terms of 1999 01:39:43,210 --> 01:39:38,810 progenitors in the you know the alien 2000 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:43,220 the movie sense whereas this other 2001 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:45,610 species kind of goes around and 2002 01:39:52,630 --> 01:39:49,930 manipulates and helps to create life or 2003 01:39:55,390 --> 01:39:52,640 you know I mean how common is life to 2004 01:39:59,140 --> 01:39:55,400 start up on its own then on different 2005 01:40:02,340 --> 01:39:59,150 planetary I'm different planets I mean I 2006 01:40:05,590 --> 01:40:02,350 am really a proponent of the pamper Mia 2007 01:40:09,940 --> 01:40:05,600 concept or the directed panspermia 2008 01:40:12,270 --> 01:40:09,950 except and I feel like you know there 2009 01:40:15,310 --> 01:40:12,280 has been an ongoing history of 2010 01:40:16,810 --> 01:40:15,320 extraterrestrial life here on earth they 2011 01:40:18,490 --> 01:40:16,820 didn't live on the surface because I 2012 01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:18,500 don't think that they were necessarily 2013 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:21,770 compatible with living on the surface of 2014 01:40:27,550 --> 01:40:23,690 the earth which was one of the reasons 2015 01:40:28,990 --> 01:40:27,560 why they created life on the surface of 2016 01:40:38,340 --> 01:40:29,000 the earth because they couldn't move on 2017 01:40:43,390 --> 01:40:38,350 it maybe yeah I I think that you know if 2018 01:40:46,990 --> 01:40:43,400 if life is not so common then maybe that 2019 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:47,000 one species that did make it to an you 2020 01:40:50,380 --> 01:40:48,890 know advanced level of intelligence you 2021 01:40:52,510 --> 01:40:50,390 know could be doing that in order to 2022 01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:52,520 help the rest of the universe 2023 01:40:58,180 --> 01:40:55,310 you know blossom and intelligence but um 2024 01:41:01,300 --> 01:40:58,190 I don't know I kind of feel like we're 2025 01:41:04,660 --> 01:41:01,310 gonna we're gonna look at you know Titan 2026 01:41:09,370 --> 01:41:04,670 and you know these different moons 2027 01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:09,380 around Saturn and find that yeah there 2028 01:41:16,420 --> 01:41:12,170 there is life there maybe we'll find 2029 01:41:20,580 --> 01:41:16,430 life and you know in a methane ocean I 2030 01:41:23,940 --> 01:41:20,590 mean I'm hoping that's the case if not 2031 01:41:27,490 --> 01:41:23,950 then then it does make this sort of 2032 01:41:31,810 --> 01:41:27,500 progenitor directed panspermia theory 2033 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:31,820 look more appealing you know because if 2034 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:33,170 we look at in our solar system and we 2035 01:41:39,910 --> 01:41:36,410 don't find life growing in different 2036 01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:39,920 environments then I think that would 2037 01:41:43,780 --> 01:41:42,110 tell us a lot and I think that would 2038 01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:43,790 support what you would you actually just 2039 01:41:49,990 --> 01:41:46,370 said that they're these these random 2040 01:41:54,700 --> 01:41:50,000 bursts of evolution and there is some 2041 01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:54,710 difficulty in explaining it it becomes 2042 01:41:58,990 --> 01:41:56,570 you know once you start taking all of 2043 01:42:03,370 --> 01:41:59,000 the information and start putting it 2044 01:42:07,210 --> 01:42:03,380 side-by-side it becomes kind of 2045 01:42:10,150 --> 01:42:07,220 blatantly obvious you know but no one 2046 01:42:12,970 --> 01:42:10,160 really looks at it that way and you know 2047 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:12,980 like I'm friends with dr. Sam Osmond oh 2048 01:42:15,610 --> 01:42:15,050 gosh Osmond oh gosh I always say his 2049 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:15,620 name wrong 2050 01:42:23,780 --> 01:42:17,610 you know the Bosnian pyramid guy 2051 01:42:26,180 --> 01:42:23,790 and you know and they had found a stick 2052 01:42:29,030 --> 01:42:26,190 or a leaf some kind of organic matter 2053 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:29,040 that was sitting on top of the surface 2054 01:42:35,150 --> 01:42:33,210 of the pyramid and and then they had a 2055 01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:35,160 carbon dated through multiple places 2056 01:42:39,590 --> 01:42:37,440 blah blah blah so this was you know 2057 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:39,600 debris that ended up on top of the 2058 01:42:47,330 --> 01:42:41,850 pyramid that was buried under a bunch of 2059 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:47,340 dirt and dirt and it was dated to 2800 2060 01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:52,170 BC something like that and and and 2061 01:42:55,850 --> 01:42:54,090 everyone sits there and goes oh no no I 2062 01:42:58,640 --> 01:42:55,860 can't be your pyramid and it definitely 2063 01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:58,650 can't be that old and you know and there 2064 01:43:03,020 --> 01:43:00,960 are all of these doubters out there but 2065 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:03,030 once you start taking this material and 2066 01:43:08,660 --> 01:43:05,250 start putting it side-by-side with what 2067 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:08,670 they find in different areas you know I 2068 01:43:13,130 --> 01:43:10,650 mean I'm really good at synthesizing 2069 01:43:15,230 --> 01:43:13,140 multiple pieces and going well look we 2070 01:43:18,710 --> 01:43:15,240 have this here we have this here we have 2071 01:43:22,730 --> 01:43:18,720 this here you know what what are what is 2072 01:43:27,010 --> 01:43:22,740 it saying I think I don't know in my 2073 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:27,020 opinion it just becomes very obvious so 2074 01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:31,890 at the end of the day you do you think 2075 01:43:39,350 --> 01:43:36,570 that evolution does occur can occur on 2076 01:43:45,350 --> 01:43:39,360 its own to form life in the first place 2077 01:43:48,140 --> 01:43:45,360 I mean I'm assuming yes right no no even 2078 01:43:52,460 --> 01:43:48,150 if there's these other gods godlike 2079 01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:52,470 beings but they didn't evolve life they 2080 01:43:59,180 --> 01:43:55,770 brought life right but for them I mean 2081 01:44:01,790 --> 01:43:59,190 within the confines of the universe it 2082 01:44:03,950 --> 01:44:01,800 must be possible somewhere outside of my 2083 01:44:07,130 --> 01:44:03,960 paygrade okay you know trying to 2084 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:07,140 describe the nature of the originator 2085 01:44:14,540 --> 01:44:10,410 gods source whatever word you want to 2086 01:44:15,470 --> 01:44:14,550 put the big G God outside this outside 2087 01:44:18,050 --> 01:44:15,480 my paygrade 2088 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:18,060 where are the extra you know where the 2089 01:44:21,890 --> 01:44:19,770 extraterrestrials came from I maybe 2090 01:44:25,220 --> 01:44:21,900 could make some commentary about you 2091 01:44:26,930 --> 01:44:25,230 know but how they got into being you 2092 01:44:29,900 --> 01:44:26,940 know we don't even know how old this 2093 01:44:30,740 --> 01:44:29,910 universe is you know we say say that 2094 01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:30,750 it's 30 2095 01:44:36,260 --> 01:44:33,360 billion years old but that's only how 2096 01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:36,270 far we can look back in time you know so 2097 01:44:43,310 --> 01:44:38,850 it can't be infinite and be 13 billion 2098 01:44:44,810 --> 01:44:43,320 years old you know it was no I think go 2099 01:44:47,420 --> 01:44:44,820 ahead well when you're when you're 2100 01:44:50,030 --> 01:44:47,430 looking at the the totality of these 2101 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:50,040 different and gods and extraterrestrials 2102 01:44:58,850 --> 01:44:53,690 that you've researched is there any one 2103 01:45:01,730 --> 01:44:58,860 group of gods or one type of a described 2104 01:45:05,930 --> 01:45:01,740 God that stands out the most to be the 2105 01:45:07,220 --> 01:45:05,940 leader of these different races coming 2106 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:07,230 down here the one that's sort of leading 2107 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:11,010 the pack now I mean that at this point 2108 01:45:16,370 --> 01:45:14,010 time would be the sky God the God that 2109 01:45:18,770 --> 01:45:16,380 lives in heaven the guy with the white 2110 01:45:20,510 --> 01:45:18,780 skin and long flowing hair that 2111 01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:20,520 everybody on the planet knows about 2112 01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:22,560 because he's the guy in charge right now 2113 01:45:29,780 --> 01:45:25,650 and you know has the name of Zeus or 2114 01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:29,790 Indra or you know whatever name hurt 2115 01:45:37,550 --> 01:45:34,560 going yeah you know so he's the guy who 2116 01:45:38,210 --> 01:45:37,560 has controlled the planet right now all 2117 01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:38,220 right interesting 2118 01:45:44,150 --> 01:45:42,290 so we're different than and some other 2119 01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:44,160 assuming this is all real right some 2120 01:45:50,990 --> 01:45:48,090 other God wasn't charged then religions 2121 01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:51,000 would be different to this day because 2122 01:45:58,430 --> 01:45:55,370 they're based on an actual alien figure 2123 01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:58,440 let's let's just say it wasn't the Indra 2124 01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:00,960 God you know or this let's say it was a 2125 01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:05,910 a female goddess in charge of all of 2126 01:46:09,260 --> 01:46:07,890 these other you know alien races that 2127 01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:09,270 have come down here then our religions 2128 01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:10,410 would be quite different wouldn't they 2129 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:14,250 Oh exactly but you know that's the part 2130 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:16,410 a lot of people don't get it's like why 2131 01:46:23,780 --> 01:46:20,850 in every culture on the planet sands 2132 01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:23,790 maybe some Australian cultures have 2133 01:46:28,670 --> 01:46:26,730 their Supreme God being the guy who 2134 01:46:31,610 --> 01:46:28,680 lives in heaven you know and they go oh 2135 01:46:34,340 --> 01:46:31,620 it's tied to the Sun it's like no that's 2136 01:46:38,660 --> 01:46:34,350 because that's where his mothership 2137 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:38,670 happens to be you know why can't there 2138 01:46:43,770 --> 01:46:42,210 be a female God why can't why does this 2139 01:46:47,250 --> 01:46:43,780 guy God who 2140 01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:47,260 lives in heaven have a lightning bolt as 2141 01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:48,400 his weapon 2142 01:46:54,030 --> 01:46:51,070 why is he continually described as 2143 01:46:58,800 --> 01:46:54,040 having white skin and long flowing hair 2144 01:47:01,380 --> 01:46:58,810 you know it's beyond coincidence well 2145 01:47:04,620 --> 01:47:01,390 and and if you know we're going with 2146 01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:04,630 your theory here then perhaps I would 2147 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:07,330 explain why thousands of years ago it 2148 01:47:19,380 --> 01:47:14,770 was a woman that was the head of the 2149 01:47:24,540 --> 01:47:19,390 religious sects and you know belief 2150 01:47:29,130 --> 01:47:24,550 systems and ways of worshipping and and 2151 01:47:31,790 --> 01:47:29,140 that that power that position that seat 2152 01:47:36,390 --> 01:47:31,800 of power switched it changed hands and 2153 01:47:38,460 --> 01:47:36,400 that's why we have the religions that we 2154 01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:38,470 have now but then you know if you're if 2155 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:40,000 you're in the middle of the east a few 2156 01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:41,170 thousand years ago a couple thousand 2157 01:47:47,790 --> 01:47:44,350 years ago did they really imagine Yahweh 2158 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:47,800 is you know a light skin long hair blond 2159 01:47:52,890 --> 01:47:49,690 guy I mean or they probably imagined him 2160 01:47:55,890 --> 01:47:52,900 more like himself themselves right well 2161 01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:55,900 actually there are images they were like 2162 01:48:01,650 --> 01:48:00,400 cylinder seals with which I of course 2163 01:48:05,250 --> 01:48:01,660 had to include because they were 2164 01:48:10,740 --> 01:48:05,260 blasphemous that had a picture of Yahweh 2165 01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:10,750 except he had serpent feet uh yeah have 2166 01:48:16,410 --> 01:48:14,110 you ever seen I'm like yeah I have okay 2167 01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:16,420 yeah I think I think you said it was on 2168 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:21,010 a like a Roman coin or yeah yeah yeah 2169 01:48:28,110 --> 01:48:24,370 and remember off the top yeah but yeah 2170 01:48:30,090 --> 01:48:28,120 because back back when many gods were 2171 01:48:31,830 --> 01:48:30,100 depicted with the lower portions of 2172 01:48:34,620 --> 01:48:31,840 their body as being serpentine or 2173 01:48:37,340 --> 01:48:34,630 snake-like and it was not considered 2174 01:48:42,150 --> 01:48:37,350 considered evil at the time mm-hmm 2175 01:48:44,270 --> 01:48:42,160 yeah that's that's fascinating of course 2176 01:48:48,630 --> 01:48:44,280 you know now the story of Adam and Eve 2177 01:48:52,830 --> 01:48:48,640 demonizes the serpent do you do you 2178 01:48:56,670 --> 01:48:52,840 think that that story is an actual story 2179 01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:56,680 and that the serpent was some alien race 2180 01:48:59,970 --> 01:48:57,520 who said no I 2181 01:49:01,740 --> 01:48:59,980 think that these human beings deserve to 2182 01:49:04,500 --> 01:49:01,750 know this and this and this and then the 2183 01:49:07,010 --> 01:49:04,510 other aliens like nope I'm sorry we're 2184 01:49:10,620 --> 01:49:07,020 not gonna do that I'm in charge now 2185 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:10,630 there are I'm gonna say bits and pieces 2186 01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:15,730 that are included in that story I mean 2187 01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:20,110 again it was these half man half serpent 2188 01:49:25,290 --> 01:49:22,930 reptilian II gods that were the ones 2189 01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:25,300 that educated humanity they're the ones 2190 01:49:36,810 --> 01:49:33,130 that formed humanity but the story of 2191 01:49:39,150 --> 01:49:36,820 eating fruit or eating the food of the 2192 01:49:42,270 --> 01:49:39,160 gods is actually a fairly consistent 2193 01:49:45,390 --> 01:49:42,280 narrative that you find there's a couple 2194 01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:45,400 that associated with with apples but not 2195 01:49:51,180 --> 01:49:48,370 so much in China there is the peach of 2196 01:49:54,660 --> 01:49:51,190 immortality and every 3,000 years the 2197 01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:54,670 peach tree would bloom and produce fruit 2198 01:49:59,490 --> 01:49:57,130 and the gods would have to partake of 2199 01:50:03,060 --> 01:49:59,500 the peach ceremony or a peach festival 2200 01:50:07,050 --> 01:50:03,070 or whatever it was and eat of this peach 2201 01:50:10,050 --> 01:50:07,060 to maintain their immortality we have 2202 01:50:16,260 --> 01:50:10,060 stories there's the story of adop 2203 01:50:21,390 --> 01:50:16,270 was Enki's mortal son or half man he 2204 01:50:24,150 --> 01:50:21,400 didn't have any divine powers and Anu 2205 01:50:27,690 --> 01:50:24,160 wanted him to go up to the heavens to 2206 01:50:29,850 --> 01:50:27,700 see him and Anki tells him you know if 2207 01:50:31,710 --> 01:50:29,860 he offers you something to eat don't eat 2208 01:50:34,590 --> 01:50:31,720 it if you offer you something to drink 2209 01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:34,600 don't drink it because it'll kill you or 2210 01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:39,010 you'll die you're gonna die and so he 2211 01:50:42,150 --> 01:50:40,480 goes up there and they offer him 2212 01:50:44,670 --> 01:50:42,160 something to drink and they offer him 2213 01:50:46,860 --> 01:50:44,680 something to eat he turns them down and 2214 01:50:50,460 --> 01:50:46,870 as he's getting to go getting ready to 2215 01:50:52,950 --> 01:50:50,470 leave on who says well you turn down you 2216 01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:52,960 know the food and the drink and that 2217 01:50:56,790 --> 01:50:55,450 would have given you immortality you 2218 01:51:02,100 --> 01:50:56,800 know so we have the tree of knowledge 2219 01:51:03,990 --> 01:51:02,110 and the tree of life you know and so you 2220 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:04,000 don't really find stories that talk 2221 01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:06,250 about the tree of knowledge but you do 2222 01:51:12,030 --> 01:51:09,070 find a number of stories that talk about 2223 01:51:14,850 --> 01:51:12,040 some kind of consumption and a tie to 2224 01:51:17,010 --> 01:51:14,860 immortality and tonight you have given 2225 01:51:20,340 --> 01:51:17,020 us quite the fruit of knowledge 2226 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:20,350 dr. Lewis thank you so much it's been an 2227 01:51:23,250 --> 01:51:21,970 absolute pleasure I'm sorry we have to 2228 01:51:25,740 --> 01:51:23,260 wrap this up because we're coming to the 2229 01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:25,750 end but if you want to find out more 2230 01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:27,610 about dr. Rita Lewis go to her website 2231 01:51:32,430 --> 01:51:30,730 soul healer calm and Rita is there any 2232 01:51:36,030 --> 01:51:32,440 other place that you want them to go to 2233 01:51:38,460 --> 01:51:36,040 and check you out on social media they 2234 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:38,470 can friend me on or like me because I'm 2235 01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:40,090 running out of friends like me on 2236 01:51:42,930 --> 01:51:40,810 Facebook 2237 01:51:45,210 --> 01:51:42,940 dr. Rita Louise so it's dr. Rita Louise 2238 01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:45,220 on Facebook and just one last little 2239 01:51:49,890 --> 01:51:46,930 thing I've been doing these weekly 2240 01:51:52,230 --> 01:51:49,900 planetary vibration readings that I post 2241 01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:52,240 on Facebook and on YouTube every week 2242 01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:54,970 people have been I've been getting a lot 2243 01:51:59,400 --> 01:51:57,070 of very nice comments they're also on my 2244 01:52:00,720 --> 01:51:59,410 website soul killer calm that's really 2245 01:52:02,820 --> 01:52:00,730 where people should go first because 2246 01:52:06,180 --> 01:52:02,830 that's kind of the portal to everything 2247 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:06,190 dr. Rita all right that's it this is 2248 01:52:10,050 --> 01:52:08,050 Alan B Smith for paranormal now on the 2249 01:52:12,900 --> 01:52:10,060 inception radio network you can follow 2250 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:12,910 me on instagram at paranormal now or go 2251 01:52:17,670 --> 01:52:14,890 to our facebook page at power and on our 2252 01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:17,680 radio and I want to thank Bob tarmac Joe 2253 01:52:21,570 --> 01:52:20,050 champion and MJ Lucas for making this 2254 01:52:23,850 --> 01:52:21,580 show possible and also a shout out to 2255 01:52:26,100 --> 01:52:23,860 Ken cherry from epic voyages radio who 2256 01:52:28,110 --> 01:52:26,110 helped me get my start in this fun and 2257 01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:28,120 exciting field alright to everybody out 2258 01:52:32,370 --> 01:52:29,650 there thank you for tuning in again and 2259 01:52:35,410 --> 01:52:32,380 in the meantime let the mystery take you 2260 01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:42,440 [Music] 2261 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:02,520 ARC slave investigates the Stephenville 2262 01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:05,530 UFO written by renowned UFO investigator 2263 01:53:10,500 --> 01:53:08,110 ken sherry the Stephenville UFO tells 2264 01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:10,510 the story of the infamous UFO sightings 2265 01:53:15,540 --> 01:53:13,510 of Stephenville Texas in 2008 where 2266 01:53:17,850 --> 01:53:15,550 local residents witnessed unknown craft 2267 01:53:19,860 --> 01:53:17,860 and lights in the sky chased by military 2268 01:53:21,450 --> 01:53:19,870 planes these sightings would set off a 2269 01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:21,460 series of events that would quickly 2270 01:53:25,740 --> 01:53:23,440 become one of the most controversial and 2271 01:53:28,260 --> 01:53:25,750 well documented UFO cases in US history 2272 01:53:30,150 --> 01:53:28,270 mark slate investigates the Stephenville 2273 01:53:32,580 --> 01:53:30,160 UFO is a fascinating and frightening 2274 01:53:34,740 --> 01:53:32,590 tale of sinister plots and shadow 2275 01:53:36,990 --> 01:53:34,750 government agencies vying for control of 2276 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:37,000 the nation author and researcher Kim 2277 01:53:41,250 --> 01:53:39,250 cherry has woven an intricate tale that 2278 01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,260 shines a light on an ominous chapter of 2279 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:43,360 American history and proving that not 2280 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:45,010 everything is as it seems 2281 01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:47,290 mark slate investigates the Stephenville 2282 01:53:52,770 --> 01:53:49,570 UFO is now available on amazon.com